Warwick WFAI-L, anyone know anything about them? Would a straight pull AR be comfortable to use?
Warwick WFAI-L, anyone know anything about them? Would a straight pull AR be comfortable to use?
the guys at Gun Supplies in Rotorua have just brought out a straight pull AR style rifle. Think its only the mag thats actually AR compatable
I had a quick fondle and its pretty nice.
I think the market is about to get flooded with them. Different makes and quality. Will be interesting to see if they last through to a change in government.
They're meant to be pretty accurate. I am running one of the Gun Supplies rifles.
Excuse my ignorance, are they semi auto?
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Gun Supplies Rotorua its lite takes AR mags and sold out taking back orders
Are these rifles any easier or faster than bolt actions?
Somewhat faster than a bolt action I would guess mostly due to configuration as your master hand remains in position through reloading and the gun remains on your shoulder. Speed isn't everything though you usually want to hit what you aim at and the cycling means that the sight picture will most likely need reaquiring.
I once raced a troy pump action against my ruger american timed 10 rounds sitting. I was 2 seconds slower but had 2 more rounds on target. Make of that what you will.
A rear locking cock on closing bolt action with a short bolt throw can be rather speedy and accurate with practice as well.
Speed and accuracy, get that ar on your P otherwise I wouldn't bother. I have ditched the ruger, the bolt is clunky and replaced it with a howa mini, tikka smooth by comparison if only the magazines were double stack it could well be the perfect price point rifle.
About the same practical rate of fire as a lever action I have found.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Waimata
That’s exactly the reason why you bout it. To have a turn using the things that might go under the ban hammer. That’s what I’ve learnt...to my cost in experience...Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil_H
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From a practical perspective, this may be an ingenious solution to a non-existent problem.
A slicked-out lever-action is likely to be a better option given situations requiring rapid successive shots tend to be well within 100m.
And a bog standard Howa 223 with 10 round magazine is both fast and accurate.
Both options are less likely to declared weapons of mass destruction by the police farce.
Surely a Henry long ranger is more practical. Mag fed. Lever and scopes are easy to mount. And much cheaper than proprietary straight pull clones
How many moving parts. Any stripping and cleaning issues . A Lee Enfield 303 10 shots and proven to work?
stop being practicle folks..... 6 shots from most bolt actions as fast as you can work the bolt....takes care of 99% of needs....might take the non ejecting single for a walk and feed it with black powder fueled cast..... because I can.
As well as being aidsQuote:
Originally Posted by Russian 22.
Noisy to load the first shot, so I would prefer a lever with a hammer myself
Maybe old news, but for those interested in an AR style straight pull, Guncity have the Troy SPR on their website.
Never used them. I just figured a lever with a mag is probably cheaper and maybe more usefulQuote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
Played with on of the Gun Supplies prototypes at a Service match in Dorkland earlier this year.
Looks and feels like an AR. Same ergonomics.
The cops are apparently ok with these as you have to break contact and move a hand to cycle the action.
They are fractionally faster than a bolt, in the same way that a Blaser is faster. Not convinced that is sufficient to give these a competitive advantage (think SMLE vs K31 for comparison), but they will no doubt make a lot of the AR fanboys happy.
The initial noises were that they would be kept to service rifle and IPSC 3-gun, but that was wishfull thinking. Guess we will see in 2-3 years time if they survive or get the chop due to being "too scary".
think people are missing the point of the comparing them to a long ranger or a lee enfield, in my mind they are for people needing a mid power cartridge for pest control, or compeditive shooting and people who miss or never got to have an actual ar, but at the end of they I think $4000 is a little bit steep but appreciate the quality of it not really being mass produced and being an oceanic product
I've got about 5-600 rounds through my GBC so far. Running really well. Good accuracy with some loads.
I’ve got one on its way ( a Troy) so will put a review up once I’ve fitted the old acog and done a trip to the range..Quote:
Originally Posted by NZShoota
Will be interesting to see 3-way comparison between the GBC / Troy / Warwick.
@omark, do you know if the Troy is leftie friendly ?
The OzzieReviews youtube vid of the Warwick was odd, the charging handle was on the wrong side, unless his mate that lent him the rifle is a leftie.
Yes its ambidexrisQuote:
Originally Posted by ebf
You can swap the charging handle around on the GBC as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by ebf
is the charging handle best on the trigger hand or support hand side? I'm not goingtot buy one, this is just out of interest.
if anyone buys one i have the perfect scope for it. leupold vx3 1-5x20 still in the box
I find it best to charge from the strong side, as in, whatever orientation you prefer to have the bolt on a bolt action rifle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Waimata
Offhand side so master hand stays on pistol grip. Off hand for changing mags too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Waimata