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Anybody else currently changing a A cat AR over to E cat? I submitted the forms to the local AO around the 10th Dec and not had it approved, local AO says she is waiting for a response from Wellington.
I know it has been Christmas and the new year but how long has it taken for other people?
Anyone got an E cat lower to sell, might be quicker at this rate :D
Cheers
Tom
I applied last week to have two lowers registered as E cat ,was told paperwork needs go to police headquarters in Wellington for decision ,which may take up to ×4weeks.
Have done this process several times in the past and approval has been on the spot or on that day ....Damn red tape getting in way of everything these days....
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More waiting, left me know when yours get approved as mines taken over 4 working weeks already......Quote:
Originally Posted by seano
AO could have approved that in the time to process relaying it to and from Wellington.
The centralised processing of these permits has no real benefits on the face of it, It just facilitates faceless passive aggression in the form of deliberate delays and arbitrary interpretations of law.
Clever, but not clever
Applied for one towards the end of November still nothing
I've applied for several permits early December ... thought this new system in place ,was to ensure got processed faster
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fixed it for ya, Kinda like trying to renew your firearms licence eh @PengyQuote:
Originally Posted by seano
I swappeded an A to E the week before xmas, happened on the spot - AO didnt have to sent forms upstairs or anything. Did an E to A at the same time.
Ah, so you did not in effect apply to enlarge your dangerous E-cat arsenal.Quote:
Originally Posted by res
I sent the forms and took a rifle in to be inspected end of Nov. It actually initiated the security inspection for the new house, only after waiting 2 years. Haven’t heard anything about the actual rifle. I’m using it on the 2nd Feb for the Good Morning Vietnam shoot!
And speak of the devil, email just came through saying I need to take the converted to MSSA rifle to be inspected again before 11 Feb. I’ve never had to do that before.
Had a mate try put a AR 10 from E to A to sell it(sale was sussed out etc) and was told hed have to submit a form to Wellington.
So are they saying that if you buy something on a given Cat it must stay there and cannot be changed?
I phoned and arranged an appointment at the police station to do the same. Took it in - 10 minutes later, walked out again.
Is there any legal reason for Police to decline this application? Is there a limit to how many MSSA rifles you can own, and do you have to justify every new one?
Well said @Cordite.
@dogmatix that sounds like bollocks to me. To what benefit do they need to sight that you have manufactured the MSSA?? More of an inconvenience for you to be honest.
@Ben Waimata no there really isn't a valid reason to decline it and I've not heard of anyone being declined before. There is no limit to the amount of MSSA's you can own and you shouldn't have to justify it, but "they" require it via "their" policy.
Thanks Sasquatch. It's theoretical anyway because even if I had to get 1000 good justifications to the police for buying another E rifle, it would be nothing compared to the justification I'd need with my wife!
Took an A cat AR10 in to Wgtn Central and Louise put it straight onto E for me then and there - was mid Dec from memory
Got a phone call for my 6-monthly inspection Sunday yesterday and he had no record of it being added but that "isn't unusual"
I find that the best thing is to ring em up every day until you get what you want
6 monthly inspection?.......where in the law does it state that?Quote:
Originally Posted by 308
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Pistols
( and E-cats too I think? not sure)
Have to attend club shoots 12 times a year and inspected 6 monthly
He asks me each time how many A-cats I have and I say 1
He writes down 10
We laugh..
i applied early decem, said needed wellinton's approval. a month later call arm,s office, next day some ao from other town( palmaston ?) approved it for me. guess wellington over loaded.
Is anyone having any issues with other E cat firearms besides AR's? Or does it seem the police have a personal vendetta with them?
I think pistols is 6 monthly inspections, MSSA's are every 3 years. Well that's what my AO said anyway.
I spoke with my AO today. Got a permit to import an MSSA in a week. Noted that it had been near two months since I did a Pol76x. She said she had tried to chase it up and received no response. She doesn't know what the delay is.
Thanks for thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Sasquatch
If the guy is already there looking at some of my registered firearms I don't mind if he sees the other registered ones
There's no way he is looking at my A-cat stuff ever unless the law changes
I think you are meant to have an annual audit of your endorsed guns, don't ask me to quote the arms act on that though. I had my first annual audit after 6 years last year... my list said I owned two of a couple of rifles.
Anyone made any progress? I am till waiting, should of just gone and bought a e cat AR.......
I got mine all sorted.
Delay was because central hadn’t sent all the information to Manukau AO.
Finally sorted after an emailn to the HB AO, apparently it had been approved but not sent though from wellington.........
I'm still waiting for my go ahead to convert to E cat ..been few weeks now.....
Also still waiting on permits to be approved since mid Dec ,have chased it up couple times ,even police HQ acknowledged they remember processing them ,but they don't know where they have got to .......
Would have thought reprint and mail back out to me would of been the go to .......
My items held in customs will be growing cobwebs ffs
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One of my rifles that I submitted a month ago came through. The other on I submitted last year still nothing. AO thinks it has been lost. Still no reply to her enquiries
NZ Post lost my permits I sent via them to the AO at Customs at Auckland airport. Located in NZ Posts own international mail centre!
Luckily Matt the Customs AO was fine with the suppliers copies I still had.
Well done NZ Post, awesome job.
Not.
I had the exact same thing happen to me man, luckily Matt was a good sort about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dogmatix
My first one I have been waiting for came back ok today. File had been put in the wrong place.