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Looking at one of these for a cheap-and-cheerful bush / pack gun, bit of a DIY project...
Probably 7.62x39
Happy to customise stock, do bedding job, polish trigger etc and have a general tinker.
Any feedback on which scopes you are using on the Baikal would be appreciated.
What eye-relief should I be looking for in scopes ?
Also keen to hear from folks that have shortened them, how much did you cut off, whats the weight of your setup all-up ?
Bump ?
Come on guys, don't make me have to post the same question on that "other" forum <shock,horror> :P
Such profanities ebf
And get one in 308.
It's desperation, I tell ya !Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
hmmm, will check if wooden stock version is available in 308.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
getting back into hunting after long break. used to 308 and 30-06, but it's not like I'll going after kudu and oryx ;-)
my "toy" fund is looking a bit sad at the moment, hence the 7.62x39, nit sure how long it's going to be before I get reloading setup again.
better half is also likely to have a go at some plinking and maybe the odd goat or 2, so less kick is a factor.
lotto money project is a 6.5 LR rig, but 'id rather get out there sooner and get some veni in the freezer
anyone ever had a look at swapping the barrels between the IZH-18 models ?
the 'extractor' and chamber are both part of the barrel..
is it possible to use the same receiver and fore-grip for different caliber barrels ?
No experience with one of them but fixed my dads rossi after his "gunsmith" mate had been at it.
(help with rossi thread )
Shortened to 18inch i think. Pointed and balanced beautifully for off hand shots with a shit fixed 3x scope on it.
Recoil was lively without suppressor but not offensive noise on the other hand from short barrel and slow for bullet weight powder was something else!
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I have two EBF
one in .222 one in .223.
http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/...T/IMG_6074.jpg
Both have sub $100 3-9x40s on them although you need an adapter rail to take the scope mounts as the dovetail machined into the reciever is very short as can be seen here.
Both shoot better than I can aim.
Haven't shortened either.
Yes the barrels are interchangeable however you may need to fit the forestock for each barrel, simple file job.
They weigh about 6lbs all up.
The triggers are not the best but they are good enough.
I like them ..... Goats don't.
Cheers
Pete
tx Pete, thats good news
anyone in the Welly region have a IZH-18 barrel in 308 that I can check the fit pls ?
yea im thinking id like one in 45apc
that way suppressed it would just be an oversized 22 sub
not so keen on having the jhitty trigger tho
huh ? which firearm are you talking about Bill ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill999
my question was about Baikal IZH-18MH.
ebf
I also own one in 12ga.
It was the first shot gun I bought ....... I bought it new from Craftys when he was in Havlock North...... I was 16 (1980) and the ink on my firearms licence was still wet when I handed over the princely sum of $65.00. I think he gave me some ammo as well.
It's stll in my gun cabinet and still shoots good as gold.
I must try and see if it's also interchangeable with the Rifles as it looks identical.
308 might give you a good boot as these rifles don't weigh much ..... cut down barrel and slienced might make it more bearable.
Like I said the triggers on these Baikals are not the best .... bench shooters would notice and not like them ..... Hunters wouldn't notice ..... Goats dont seem to mind either.
I've searched the net looking for ideas to improve them but haven't come across any good info yet other than to smooth up all the surfaces.
Cheers
Pete
Hey Pete,
Let me know about the 12ga, will be interested to hear if it works.
Yup, mines a 7.62x39 about to get the chop to 18 inches, got a DPT can for it. And you're spot on about the boot, even the x39 has a noticeable shunt, just goes to show that it is the rifle, not necessarily the caliber.
bump, any 308 barrels around in the welly region ?
I have one in 223 and really like it. I didn't like the stiff action so I filed down the retaining clip just enough to free it up (not much).
Attachment 6504
This guy filed down the locking lug, but that's part of the barrel... the clip side is probably cheaper to replace if you botch the job!
The previous owner removed the iron sights for some reason, I can't think why. I've hunted goats in Northland with my T3 and its bulky 3-9x40 scope, and the bush is so dense that magnification is a hindrance, so open sights would be ideal.
Since the iron sights were removed permanently I fitted a $40 5-MOA reflex sight (1x25) from ebay which fits well on the dovetail. I took it to the range last weekend and got about 3-4" groups at 25m -- about the size of the dot through my fuzzy eyes, which I'm happy with. Having both eyes open, unlimited field of view and eye-relief are great drawcards. Just remember to turn off the LED, and keep a spare battery handy.
Attachment 6505
Spare battery:
Attachment 6506
Red/green with three intensity levels:
Attachment 6507
What I like:
*Solid build
*Simple design, easy to dismantle and service
*Taking down is two quick actions
*Accurate enough for me (I've tested it with a scope at 100m)
*Cheap. Can be had new for $280-$400
*Short and compact, easy to carry and stow in the pack
*It looks nice
*Cheap to run on steel-case ammo
*I like that it's a single shot. I can reload in a couple of seconds so this is less of a pain than I thought it could be.
What I dislike:
*The trigger isn't very nice. A friend compared it to dragging a spoon through mud.
*The action lever is too stiff and isn't long enough -- only covers half my middle finger.
*Watch out when attaching the forestock. The lever bites.
*It's heavier than my 308
EBFQuote:
Originally Posted by ebf
I tried the 12ga but it does not fit.
Cheers
Pete
Hi guys, reviving this thread as im thinking of getting one in 223...just want a cheap bush gun i can throw in the pack when tramping in case i 'run into anything'.....if you get my drift....
pro's and con's please, i just like the fact that it 'breaks down' and is cheap as chips if it doesnt get fired that much, $400 at Reloaders.....
If you run into anything its no use being in the pack :P
On to it Tobes, more like when im tramping in Tongariro and i start seeing sign (which ive done a couple of times) it would be nice to 'load up' and go for a stalk....
bearing in mind you cannot fire on a DOC track or 500 mtrs from a 'Great walk hut'.....i know my shit.......
That is why I bought one. Haven't done anything with it yet. A trigger job, shortening and suppression are on the cards.
Cheers GM, whats it like straight out the box, any good? i will probably keep 'as is'.....when im away for the weekend, its either tramping OR hunting, never both.....(armed tramping aside!)Quote:
Originally Posted by gadgetman
but a couple of times now ive stumbled across 'sign' and only been armed with the usual flatulence, halitosis & colourful language!!!!....well not anymore.....now ill be 'packing'
only need to remember to print off a hunt permit when i go, ive got no problem with the extra weight, its good 'training' and only have to take 3-4 rnds, goats, deer, pigs.....all good!
The trigger is awful at the range. Other than that is seems pretty simple and robust and breaks down nicely. I wasn't impressed with the accuracy but that is more me trying to predict when it is going to do something. I know it will shoot better.
Scouser
My Baikal in .223 shoots well enough at the range except for the trigger
I've shot Goats at 200m.
They fell over so can't complain.
I'll be keeping this one for a few years yet.
Cheers
Pete
Thanks guys, it will only be used/taken out about 3/4 times a year, thats why i wanted a cheap option.....
plus 'take down' capability.....
Got the idea after seeing a Brno K1 on tard me for $1,250.......this is a 1/3 of the cost......
Yep they are a third of the cost, unfortunately they not a BRNO either :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Scouser
Cheers
Pete
But they're honest, not pretentious. I'm looking forward to having a good nosey at mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by P38
Got one from Reloaders at the w'end, $395, got the rail scope mount too....seems well made and very robust, got the synthetic, trigger is better than i had hoped....will go for a play soon and see what it groups like!!!!!
I brought a 223 off here awhile back brand new in the grease (which it still is) haven't shot it yet I do have plans to chop it etc but if anyone really needs/wants one I may let it go as I have a couple of 223s so not too attached to it
a mate was getting 0.6 inch groups from his which is perfectly respectable for the cost
They are plenty accurate enough for hunting.Quote:
Originally Posted by rambo-6mmrem
I can hit a 6" steel Gong at 200m every time so they can't be too bad.
Cheers
Pete
