hi all,
Is there any one doing this conversion?
Anyone had it done recently?
Cheers
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hi all,
Is there any one doing this conversion?
Anyone had it done recently?
Cheers
@gundoc ; should be able to steer you in the right direction
@gundoc
Gunworks re-chambered one to 22mag for me and my 22 hornet Vickers conversion is very accurate even after maybe 35 years and 100's of rounds.
I think from memory it was done by Rod Woods but maybe Paul Manders.
The breech block has to be converted to centrefire by annealing, boring out the face and fitting a hardened bushing and fitting an offset pin in the striker. The back of the action is bored to 3/8" to accept a long custom-made reamer, and the chamber and extractor are cut together. Easy enough for someone with skills.
If it was done by me it will have my name and date or WCG (Woods Custom Guns) and date.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tedz50
Nice, ill try them tomorrow.
Somehow ive accumulated 2 vickers and at least 4 bsa's
Got a reply to my email to gunworks this afternoon,
Not a job they will do, beyound there expertise according to amanda,
So no go there
Try Zac, out Rangiora way, he learnt his trade from the best.
Wouldnt mind something like this myself eventually. @Peteforskeet might have to hit you up for aone of your spares one day.
Suggest gunworks want straight out production machining not old school one off gunsmithing
@gundoc by fitting the hardened bush you didn't need to re harden the whole block when finished ?Quote:
Originally Posted by gundoc
I have a 1215 here and might drop the parts out and look at what's involved
Or I could modify the block to CF and colour case harden it and get the same result
Correct, the blocks were only case-hardened anyway. Once annealed, reassemble into the closed position and drop a hardened centre-pointed rod down the bore to mark the exact centre of the firing pin hole, then bore and thread it square to the breech face. The bushing should have a 1.5 - 1.8mm hole for the firing pin and two stub holes for a tightening key.Quote:
Originally Posted by akaroa1
Hi rod,
Is another option to alter the height of the fingers on the end of the cocking lever, that lift the breechblock to height?
The downside being that the face of the breechblock wouldnt be dead square to the centreline of the bore anymore, i think by 1 degree?
I will send zac an emailQuote:
Originally Posted by Husky1600
The firing pin is at 12 o'clockQuote:
Originally Posted by Peteforskeet
So the block needs to be lowered and the breech block face will not be square to the breech
These are the parts disassembled
The firing pin main shaft it wide enough to take the offset firing pin
It needs to be timed because of the sear slot
Attachment 193558
Attachment 193559
So there's a 1215 here in pieces of anyone wants to have a crack at converting to CF
I'm no interested because I have a huge list of restorations I'm working through already
And I'm not a Martini fan because they don't have an external hammer
And I have 1885 and 44 1/2 22 hornets already
PM sentQuote:
Originally Posted by akaroa1
I have only done one that way and it worked fine but I prefer the bushing method for a better result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peteforskeet
Looks like zac is going to do it for me, ill post on here how it goes, could be several weeks away,Quote:
Originally Posted by gundoc
Cheers
the old smith up my way used to specialize in these not just 22hornets ether ive seen them come out of his workshop in everything upto and includeing 7mm waters (7mm-30/30)
mostly 222's and 223's and some other 22 cal wild cats
i brought a victors 22 target rifle that had been re done to 22h
he looked at it and said its safe but the barrel wont last as they just rechambered the 22 barrel he said 22 rimfire barrel steel was softer and wouldn't handle the 22hornet for more than 500-1000 rounds he was right it shot out really quick
he always re-barreled his
ofcorse this was like 10 years ago so cant remember all the details
Im only going to shoot lead at rimfire velocity so cant see any problems thereQuote:
Originally Posted by rambo-6mmrem
Also i have a very new looking westley richards barrel in 310 cadet,
im thinking this would be an ok conversion as well?
Pete: it would be a sad thing to do, to modify a 310 original barrel in good condition. That barrel belongs on a Martini Cadet. Get another barrel for the build.
Ill have a hunt thru the pile of barrels at gun city see what i can findQuote:
Originally Posted by rupert
@Peteforskeet don't waste your time. There isn't a single small caliber barrel in that pile that's got any life at all left in itQuote:
Originally Posted by Peteforskeet
they have been gone though by myself and a renowned benchrest shooter and gunsmith will a borescope and they are all absolutely crap
Realistic value is current scrap rates
