Thread: Can I still hunt with a 4 shot Browning BAR

Originally Posted by stug

....The new legislation banning all centrefire semi -autos has not been passed yet, so is not law. After it is passed ALL centrefire semi-autos are called a "Prohibited Firearm" there is no exemption for magazine style or size for centrefire semi-auto's.

stug - I've been away hunting stags so I'm missing something here, so could you please enlighten me. What new legislation banning all centrefire semi -autos are you referring to? I've only seen reference to military style semi-autos or centrefire semi-autos that can be modified to take higher capacity mags than 5 cartridges. The hunting BAR can't accept a larger mag unless the rifle itself is extensively modified and even then I've never seen nor heard of a larger capacity mag being available for it.

All semi auto centrefire are now prohibited. There is no magazine capacity limit for centrefire.

Also when the BAR becomes prohibited the magazine box will become a prohibited part. Pretty sure these are the same as ALL Browning bolt action rifles. Therefore the magazine boxes of ALL Browning bolt action rifles will be prohibited, unless it is a calibre group that a BAR is not made for.

Originally Posted by stug

All semi auto centrefire are now prohibited. There is no magazine capacity limit for centrefire. ...

I just looked up the police website and it says:

"a semi-automatic firearm that is capable of being used in combination with a detachable magazine (other than one designed to hold 0.22-inch or less rimfire cartridges) that is capable of holding more than 5 cartridges."

The BAR hunting rifle doesn't have a detachable magazine. Not saying it can't be modified to take one.

You need to check the new legislation for the definition of a prohibited weapon. The Police website info is correct for the law at the moment, but will be incorrect when the legislation is passed

Originally Posted by stug

All semi auto centrefire are now prohibited. There is no magazine capacity limit for centrefire.

Also when the BAR becomes prohibited the magazine box will become a prohibited part. Pretty sure these are the same as ALL Browning bolt action rifles. Therefore the magazine boxes of ALL Browning bolt action rifles will be prohibited, unless it is a calibre group that a BAR is not made for.

Bloody hell If that is the case my Maral will be affected to!

I just been told BAR can have a 10 shot mag so they will be MSSA under current Order In Council.

Originally Posted by stug

You need to check the new legislation for the definition of a prohibited weapon. The Police website info is correct for the law at the moment, but will be incorrect when the legislation is passed

Okay, thanks for that stug. I presume this is the legislation you're referring to.

Arms (Prohibited Firearms, Magazines, and Parts) Amendment Bill 125-1 (2019), Government Bill 5 New sections 2A to 2D inserted – New Zealand Legislation

Are you sure there are bigger mags for X bolt, or AB3? Being of the design they are it doesn't seem the mag box would accept any other type of magazine? Brownings webpage makes no mention of them. Nor do I get results for aftermarket parts anywhere. The mag box of the A bolt I am unsure about though?

Shit does that mean any of the Howas or 700s are in trouble then?

Given the vast amount of aftermarket conversion kits available.

Up until Monday, I was feeling lucky for me, gutted for those affected. Now possibly 3 firearms lighter. I was just starting to develop a soft spot for my A Bolt.
Christ, where will it end, and Im wondering what will it really cost now that all these other safe firearms are being caught up by having a sharing part with other safe firearms. If only they werent wearing that nasty black dress and high heels.....

Safe to say if the madness isn't reigned in its heading waaayy north of a billion dollars.

Wonder if joe public will be pleased with the massive tax increases across the board?

Going off the current wording and I hate to sound pessimistic here but we will be left with very very few manual repeaters for centre fires.

I do wonder if they realise that by going after all semis roughly speaking that they won't have much change out of $5billion......

Originally Posted by stug

All semi auto centrefire are now prohibited. There is no magazine capacity limit for centrefire.

Also when the BAR becomes prohibited the magazine box will become a prohibited part. Pretty sure these are the same as ALL Browning bolt action rifles. Therefore the magazine boxes of ALL Browning bolt action rifles will be prohibited, unless it is a calibre group that a BAR is not made for.

Looking at the Browning website, the BAR looks to have a specific magazine and not the same as A-bolt/A-bolt II/AB3/X-bolt etc. Maral may well have the same magazine though. So Browning bolt-rifles are going to be fine based on current wording.

That was how I saw it also.

@PaulNZ cheers for that, glad it doesn't effect the other Brownings.