Safe to say if the madness isn't reigned in its heading waaayy north of a billion dollars.
Wonder if joe public will be pleased with the massive tax increases across the board?
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Safe to say if the madness isn't reigned in its heading waaayy north of a billion dollars.
Wonder if joe public will be pleased with the massive tax increases across the board?
Going off the current wording and I hate to sound pessimistic here but we will be left with very very few manual repeaters for centre fires.
I do wonder if they realise that by going after all semis roughly speaking that they won't have much change out of $5billion......
Looking at the Browning website, the BAR looks to have a specific magazine and not the same as A-bolt/A-bolt II/AB3/X-bolt etc. Maral may well have the same magazine though. So Browning bolt-rifles are going to be fine based on current wording.Quote:
Originally Posted by stug
That was how I saw it also.
@PaulNZ cheers for that, glad it doesn't effect the other Brownings.
BAR might have a different follower to activate last round bolt hold open? (Don't know much about them)
I thought that the Browning might slip through because of its floorplate but the Remington Woodsmaster was definitely out.
They obviously haven't tried shooting a bunch of rounds out of a 300 win mag semi to see how much of a preferred rifle for bad activity it isn't.
Even if they compromised and let the bigger calibres out of the ban.
So the pessimist in me just says that banning as many firearms as they can while they have the chance is what is on the agenda.
OR its just the fact they are showing the world just how bloody awesome NZ is and how you do shit even though its rushed, screws people over it shouldn't and not only cause confusion because of rushed wordings but probably some public disobedience as well.
The asshole in me says a bit of both.
The asshole in ME says says they will via narrow minded stupidity make a minor problem a major one in short order.
Yeah a mate has one of the older ones and doesn’t know whether it’s in or out?Quote:
Originally Posted by GDMP
The old Mark 1 BAR's were in the early days of venison recovery modified for larger mags, can't remember how they locked into the action but they were used. Haven't seen one for 40 plus years.
Didn't say it was an easy conversion, but it was done. I know the top of the old mag was used but can't remember what mag it was welded to or how it was retained.Quote:
Originally Posted by GDMP
What the antis don't realise is the precision required to make a magazine work reliably in a semi. Any modification is likely to make a semi into a very fiddly single shot...
There is and was some very gifted, gunsmiths, fitters and turners, and good old Kiwi ingenuity out there that made most modifications and repairs in the firearm trade work, and there was the others who thought they could get it right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bol Tackshin
Well I have a Sako Finwolf, Lever action with a 4 shot mag. Hopefully it is ok
Well I have a Sako Finwolf, Lever action with a 4 shot mag. Hopefully it is ok
going by what the second round of legislation has in mind I would say not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chop3r
All detachable mags will be verboten. I don't know if they realise how many there are out there including 303's but if so watch all the feckwits who went "never hunted with a semi-who needs one" and see how they like watching a normal hunting rifle get banned. magazine capacity in old style tube mag 22's are out too
Then there might be a rark up
No. No, it's not OK! But I'm willing to store it in my safe. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chop3r
You can ignore that one for now, as indicated by @ChrisW.Quote:
Originally Posted by csmiffy
I guess the old Winchester model 100s are gone too?
yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Got-ya
What will be the compo on one of them I wonder ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Got-ya
How is this compo going to work - sorry if its already been explained in this mass of information and misinformation
Very relevant point. Probably not a lot of fiscal value in some of those old firearms but surely a bunch of sentimental value attached to what are often first rifles/or an inhereted piece with many memoriesQuote:
Originally Posted by Sarvo
For sure - I had a Model 100 308 and sold it in a fit of madness when divorced etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Nick-D
Shot a lot of Deer with it too - all open sights
But - prob never worth more than 500$
If I still had it - would not sell for that - so there is your backup answer :-)
considering you see burnt out old BAR's and even remmy's going for 500+I would suggest there is the possibilities of some good prices. A Winchester 100 in tidy order would have to be 700 plus wouldn't it? not a lot around so hard to price.
The aussie buy back did I believe have some allowance for rarer firearms and did pay quite well in some applications.
Their issue was getting a guy in that may've had dads rare browning shotgun and between him and the cops not knowing different, getting shit all for it. The opposite also held true where they got significantly more than what they were worth.
IF these idiots do a buy back, to make it work they have to pay decent coin otherwise people will get the shits and either sell them to people that shouldn't have them or just keep them.
This 1905 Winchester .35 SL gone too ?
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Looks like a semi automatic assault pump action with a high capacity clip capable of holding more than 30 shellsQuote:
Originally Posted by john m
Unless I've messed up the math:
$200 million dollars from Treasury estimate in police briefing paper
250,000 FAL holders also from Treasury estimate
$800 per licensed holder if, on average, everyone gets (only) one gun stolen by the Jacindagang.
That's it.
Nothing for dealers.
Nothing for accessories.
Better hope the initial paper does not reflect the final payment, but I know where I'd lay the odds.
Mate at schools dad had a 401 self loader. The push rod at the end was quite neat and elegant I thought. It was restocked in hardwood from one of the old bridges down hokitika way. Saw this back in 80s and done way before that.
@sightpicture winnie the turncoat did mention it may be significantly more than that but at guess I don't reckon they have a clue.
