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Actually looks fairly interesting - very close to AR15 receiver size, AR15 thumbhole stocks will fit due to identical dimensions in the right places, AR15 handguards that fit standard AR barrel nut will fit (with the right barrel nut), significantly lighter than all the various other "AR10" receiver designs. Hope it's not crap, reasonably priced, and available in NZ. Makes the .308 AR platform more enticing with a more realistic size/weight.
gimp + DPMS...wut?
make Noveske make a N6 to this size and I'll buy twoQuote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
e: their .308 guns ~*reportedly*~ are better than 5.56 and also it's the only vaguely interesting .308 AR platform, up from zero previously
I would buy an AP4 if they are good
same, and cut it down + free float tube and geissele. Build up from receiver set + BCG + barrel + barrel nut might be the most economical way to go though given that the factory furniture is pretty much throwaway, even down to the buffer tube if you want it A-cat. They will be selling stripped receivers etc same as they did with the old Gen1 gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
They have not shaved much of the weight 7.75lbs down to 7.25lbs.
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Originally Posted by Markgibsonr25
Depends which model you look at - the AP4 Gen1 is 8.5lbs, Gen2 is 7.25lbs... so a 1.25lb loss.
the Hunter has less difference in weight, but the Gen2 has a 20" barrel and Gen1 has 16"... and Gen2 is still lighter.
I'm quite excited about it, even though it's... dpms.
Not much lighter And almost unobtanium mags still... Ill stick with my RRA tank and SLRs for now and just moan about the weight lol
I guess we'll see - they're already available in the US so user reviews will be around.
SR25/DPMS pattern mags hard to get?
You remember where we live right ?
Haha yup. Land of the forgotten. Middle Earth, fucking middle of nowhere earth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spanners
Hard enough trying to get decent Primers and 208gr amax today, let alone firearms or parts.
Don't see what the issue with mags is? Brownells? Nobody seems to be having difficulty importing mags atm.
Deltasector.co.nz list the magpul SR25 mags as in stock, not cheap tho
So my Christensen CA 10 is pretty light then ?
Carbon barrel goes a long way. How's yours running?
Yep going great, but it needs a new barrel, has a ring in the chamber on the shoulder....good times, other than that fantastic, waiting for a replacement barrel.......Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
As far as lite weight , yes , but I question the reduction of bolt carrier weight , reducung this would in affect reduce the bolt carrier to bolt ratio , and I would think that would in real terms NOT make it as reliable as the std heavier AR10/SR25 bolt carrier , anyway thats just me .
The ONLY 308 AR type rifles that interest me are the HK & LMT and thats it , nothing else .
Last yr & this year have seen guys with the AR10 type rifles , both the versions with SR25 & FAL mags fail to function , usually a failure to extract , and the procedure to clear the rifle , was what they call mortaring ( aka shotgun , clearance drill ) , not something that inspires confidence .
In short , all I have seen in the main is guys with the 308 ARs , is they are having a lot of trouble with them , and no where near as reliable as a run of the mill 223 Ar15 type rifle .
Later Chris
My LAR 8 functions fine with good mags. That's the caveat. Some FAL mags are junk.
Out of what sample size are you basing this on?I have had zero issues with mine other than initial reload tweaking and the other i know of in waro has had zero issues as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisF
No issues with mine, with any of the mags I have and a vast variety of ammo
5 rifles over 2 yrs , thats just what I saw , dont kill the messenger .
In all the SLRs ( L1A1 ) I have shoot , never had to hammer the butt into the ground to force the bolt carrier to the rear to clear the rifle .
You will maybe also note , that of the 308 ARs I would like , the SR25 is not one of them , even the Aussies that had them , went to the HK version .
Later Chris
Interesting you say yes to LMT and no to SR25 as they are the same in parts supply with only the headspace on individual rifles stopping the complete interchangeability.
If you have a FTE on a AR15 your are mortaring it like a AR10.
I've had to do it a number of times on my 15s due to tight chambers and tight ammo.
My 308 has spat out everything it's been fed.. Including 2 rd's of 260 that got mixed up with the 308
Loaded to Saami spec no probs
A couple of my 223 dies won't size to Saami specs And create issues. Change of die and like a sewing machine
On a L1 or M1 the chambers are that baggy that they will eat anything and spit it out. Chalk and cheese to what's being discussed