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Hello guys and gals,
I have a shot gun of a friends that I am trying to get a valuation for. Would anyone have an idea or somewhere that would give us an honest price.
Or if someone wants to buy it let me know also.
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Cheers
You need to take the forend off ,remove barrels & take clear photos of proof markings/choking etc ,then take photo of breech face with out barrels attached ,ejectors /extractors & internals of barrels as best you can from breech end with good lighting to show any pitting.
A nice example of a Facile Princeps Greener. A lot depends on the bore condition, action tightness, ejector or extractor, cased, etc. but it looks pretty good with a decent amount of original finish. Certainly not less than $1,000 and possibly more than $2,000. They are quality and sturdy guns but, sadly, only appeal to a small percentage of shooters. Having said that, they are usually in a position to pay for good examples. Clear photos of proof marks and bores are needed. I should add that it was probably made late 1920's to mid 1930's. Production of the Facile Princeps ceased at the beginning of WW2 but is now back in limited production to order.
Have a yarn with Greg Carvell @ SAI.
UGhhh the system would not let me add the info after l tried to find a photo of the G model l used for a while ,so here is some more info l hope helps -
You need to take the forend off ,remove barrels & take clear photos of proof markings/choking etc ,then take photo of breech face with out barrels attached ,ejectors /extractors & internals of barrels as best you can from breech end with good lighting to show any pitting.
I guided in the UK & this model was fairly popular for rough pidgeon/Wood Cock & Pheasant shooting ,but all the ones l saw had the Old School pointer & birds etc engraved on them ,so this may be a base model FH50 or a live pidgeon gun etc .My guess from memory it will be a 2 1/2 chamber, so a lot depends on how previous owners treated it & roughly around late 1920-30's manufacture.
From memory the F stands for stood for Facile Princips action .The H l think stands for Hammerless Ejector option (can not remember for sure ) as the G model l had a lot to do with stood for - a Greener self-acting or Unique ejector gun.
The models ran 25,35.50,60,70,etc. & stood for the cost in English Guineas as these were sold throughout the Commonwealth through mail order catalogues (so not premium models ).From memory the "The Crown Model" was extra & had Ejectors.G was the top grade they did normally ,but there was a special order L grade they rarely did which stood for the London Pattern Sidelock used & these went for around 3 X the price of the G model.
Not realy sure on value here as never seen one here apart from the horrible Pidgeon guns but you would see the better engraved field FH50 for a 800-1500 pounds in gun shops in the UK in the 90's.
Here is a Link to the Greener site that may help you gat more info -
W.W.Greener
PS l knew l had this written some where here is the Greener grading system & the G grade l used was high 65K serial number made in 1919 so as l say my guess is late 1920 - 30's for this one
A is a Dominion hammer gun
B is a Trap hammer gun
D is an Anson & Deeley gun
E is a better quality hammer gun
F is a Facile Princeps gun
G is Greener self-acting or Unique ejector gun
M is the Monarch fore end ejector gun
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Here are some more pictures of it. It was brought into NZ years ago by the family when they came out from England. It has all the original wooden box, and paper work with it. The bores are in pretty good condition. But there is a small mark on the barrel as seen in the last photo.
Will have to try and get it to SAI and see what they think. I figured it would be a small market. But you never know who is out there looking for one haha.
Id say $1200 to $1500 for the gun itself. The box will add value, the original Greener label inside the box. if there will add more, paperwork more, etc.
But just my less than qualified opinion
Ring SAI b4 going in as Greg Carvell is not always there.
