Feeding options for Defiance

I have a defiance deviant hunter action that has a box and hinged floor plate feed system.

It is my guide gun. It is an absoloute bitch of a thing as it rusts at the slightest hint of moisture and took me ages to tune in order to have it semi serviceable. I have had clients struggle with reloading on the fly as well and that's not good if you need a follow up shot quick.
I am wondering if anyone that uses/used the same action can recommend a different system. ADL/BDL or a detachable system I can plug and play.
Not a fan of detachable systems for hunting but a flush compact mag might be better than what I am dealing with now.

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I would imagine any Remington style drop out mag systems could be usable. H-S Precision.... https://hsprecision.com/product/remi...nversion-kits/

I Ceracoted my Defiance

Which part is rusting? The mag box or the bottom metal?


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Mate ive got two defiance and curtis Vector...im running Atlasworks DBM bottom metal with MDT 5 shot mags. they are flush with the bottom of the trigger guard.
Not ideal but easy to show the gun is unloaded once all the action is over
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Originally Posted by MSL

Which part is rusting? The mag box or the bottom metal?


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Mag box as I think bottom metal is alloy but it's stained from rust.

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You need a stainless mag box


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Did you see this? https://wyattsoutdoor.com/fixing-feeding-issues/

I checked original receipt and it says, "Wyatt bottom metal and extended mag box". Perhaps drop Wyatt an email with photos and they might replace??

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Link doesn't work for me mate but did find another.
I have it working and I personally have no issues with manipulation and feeding but a few of my hunters have. Need something a monkey can work reliably. Most of all I am sick of the rust. Maybe not an issue elsewhere in the country but here on the coast its a pain in the ass.

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Monkey can use - LOL
Probably unkind to monkeys!
Yes shouldnt be rusting...is for hunting rifles those mag boxes.

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Monkey can use - LOL
Probably unkind to monkeys!
Yes shouldnt be rusting...is for hunting rifles those mag boxes.

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I have to stay on top of it as parts of the action also rust rather quickly.
I assume starting from the mag box.

I am keen to find a detachable mag system. I can then keep a spare loaded mag in my pocket for fuckups[emoji1787]

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That’s no good for a high end action like that. I would expect better rust protection for the money they cost.

Bit the bullet and bought some bottom metal and 2 x 5 rnd mags. Wasnt cheap but cheaper than the issues I was having, could cause.

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That’s no good for a high end action like that. I would expect better rust protection for the money they cost.

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I agree but do not think it is the action more so than the rust migrating to the action from wyatt box and bottom metal.

Spent a heap of coin and hopefully have the 2 issues sorted now.
Hopefully have it sorted for when my next hunters show up on Monday or they will be cleaning rust off guns all week while I chow down all the whitebait[emoji1787]

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If a magazine poking out bothers you, you can get flush fit 3 round AICS mags

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Bit the bullet and bought some bottom metal and 2 x 5 rnd mags. Wasnt cheap but cheaper than the issues I was having, could cause.

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What did you get in the end in the way of mags and bottom metal? Have thought about it myself as I like the spare mag bit.

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What did you get in the end in the way of mags and bottom metal? Have thought about it myself as I like the spare mag bit.

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Bought AICS 5 rnd mags and Rem SA AICS bottom metal.

I don't even use the rifle myself except to check zero every now and then so it better work[emoji1787]

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there is a product called Fluna tec sold by Reloader supplies that may help you stop a lot of these problems it is a spray-on coating that is suitable for all types of rifles, pistols, and knives is effective on metal and plastics and maintains long-lasting weapon performance and accuracy highly effective protection against wear. the residue-free solid lubricant protects the weapons from corrosion.
I used it to stop my blued rifles from going rusty in my gun safe food for thought

Just finished fitting the bottom metal to the Deviant. Took a bit of work with the dremel but its now fitted and works perfect.
Dunno if I made the right call for a hunting rifle but time will tell. Have to buy a new stock if I change my mind again anyway[emoji1787]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b7d3183098.jpg

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Looks sharp.

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Looks sharp.

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Yeah I spose it does. The way I walk around and carry a rifle it would take some getting used too because of where my hand goes but shouldn't be an issue for clients when they normally walk around with it slung until they need it[emoji1787]

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Looks like shit


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if it solves the issue you were having....all is good.

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if it solves the issue you were having....all is good.

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Yup. Doubt it will rust now. Feeding is smoother and precise.

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Looks like shit


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Not as shit as the weather we had tho eh?[emoji1787]
You're just still bitter about the Holy undies...

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@R93 whats the max OAL on those mags? I'm guessing there is no binder strip in them.

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@R93 whats the max OAL on those mags? I'm guessing there is no binder strip in them.

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76mm is what I measure it at.
I have a couple mm spare with the OAL that suits the rifle. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e4ce63aac3.jpg

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Yeah I spose it does. The way I walk around and carry a rifle it would take some getting used too because of where my hand goes but shouldn't be an issue for clients when they normally walk around with it slung until they need it[emoji1787]

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For the avoidance of ambiquity...I think it looks great.

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For the avoidance of ambiquity...I think it looks great.

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Noted. If he keeps it up I will tell you what he got up to with a certain ice axe[emoji1787]

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Promising for me then, I'm at 75.8mm on a Wyatt box with the throat on my 260. Would prefer single stack and removable mag over the BDL bottom metal I've got now.

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Promising for me then, I'm at 75.8mm on a Wyatt box with the throat on my 260. Would prefer single stack and removable mag over the BDL bottom metal I've got now.

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I'd say you would be sweet. I like the mag release. Hopefully save losing one in future.

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What brand of bottom metal is it?

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What brand of bottom metal is it?

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Atlas works with AM mags.

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Just finished fitting the bottom metal to the Deviant. Took a bit of work with the dremel but its now fitted and works perfect.
Dunno if I made the right call for a hunting rifle but time will tell. Have to buy a new stock if I change my mind again anyway[emoji1787]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b7d3183098.jpg

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That’s a nice piece of kit @R93. If I was guiding I would be reluctant to hand that over to a client for a South Westland thrashing. I'd handing them a bog standard tikka with a decent scope, and maybe a suppressor. Let them gark that up

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That’s a nice piece of kit @R93. If I was guiding I would be reluctant to hand that over to a client for a South Westland thrashing. I'd handing them a bog standard tikka with a decent scope, and maybe a suppressor. Let them gark that up

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I hear ya. They normally only get it when it's time to do some shooting.
Its been on a few hunts since I got it and not a mark on it so far.

My business owns it so it's not like it's my personal rifle which I used for a while and it stressed me out a bit. It also imo, displays some professionalism and confidence for the clients compared to a bog standard factory gun...Not that there is anything wrong with using one.


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I find the 5 round AM mags spring has too much tension. hard to load first round from mag. Swapping mine to a mdt 5 round. will be selling the AM if you wanted it.

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I find the 5 round AM mags spring has too much tension. hard to load first round from mag. Swapping mine to a mdt 5 round. will be selling the AM if you wanted it.

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I would have to agree regarding the too much tension having just played with it. Its fine with 4 in it and if a client needs more than that on a hunt he won't be getting the second mag. Thanks for the offer but I have 2 mags. Cant see me needing another unless I lose one.

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