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    Firearm storage.

    Hi all,
    I have cause to provide "safe" storage for another rifle and thought the bolt on plates with the pin through the trigger guard to be a bit shit.
    I was thinking of attaching a couple of d type shackles to the wall or through the side of the existing gun safe and using a bike lock strop to fix extra rifle through the action.

    Do you think this would meet current regs?

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    It was the gun shitty plate/pin arrangement that I was looking at.

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    i would be going for a full metal enclosure. bolt it down to the floor and onto a wall.
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    Firearms storage | New Zealand Police

    Have a chat to your local Arms Officer if in doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevodog View Post
    It was the gun shitty plate/pin arrangement that I was looking at.
    They are legal. But only as good as the trigger guard. I had one when I first started because $$ and tbh I could have ripped either rifle of the thing with one hand

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    I have one of the gun city plate arrangements inside a wardrobe that can be locked, only used when friends come to visit or something has been disassembled for cleaning and I don't want to put it back in the safe

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    Sweet...yes I thought the trigger guard fix was a bit weak. I'd be happy to store one in this fashion with the bolt in the safe.
    Secure is relative I guess...I could rip out my whole safe in 5mins or less with a chainsaw

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevodog View Post
    Sweet...yes I thought the trigger guard fix was a bit weak. I'd be happy to store one in this fashion with the bolt in the safe.
    Secure is relative I guess...I could rip out my whole safe in 5mins or less with a chainsaw
    @stevodog The answer to that is instead of relying on the trigger guard, you bend up a flat piece of steel that goes from wall to wall. It is even better if it goes right round like a sleeve but this can make it a bit awkward to fit. Like the red in the idagram as you look at it from below.

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    Just bear in mind, more is better. If you can find a spare single gunsafe like this https://www.guncity.com/outdoor-outf...1-2-gun-217192 this would be better.

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    @oxfarmer had a small safe he was selling a while back

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    I'm happy with a bike lock strop through the entire action I think
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevodog View Post
    Hi all,
    I have cause to provide "safe" storage for another rifle and thought the bolt on plates with the pin through the trigger guard to be a bit shit.
    I was thinking of attaching a couple of d type shackles to the wall or through the side of the existing gun safe and using a bike lock strop to fix extra rifle through the action.

    Do you think this would meet current regs?
    Are you trying to tell us that your lockable cabinet-container, is too small to accommodate another firearm?
    Is that why you are looking at an alternative method of securing this firearm?
    If so, why don't you read the regulation for yourself, instead of asking for an opinion from equally ignorant forum readers, then you can make an informed decision from a position of knowledge.

    (2) On and after 1 July 1993 the reasonable steps required by subclause(1)(c) shall include—
    (a) keeping on the holder’s premises—
    (i) a lockable cabinet, container, or receptacle of
    stout construction in which firearms may be
    stored
    ; or
    (ii) a lockable steel and concrete strongroom in
    which firearms may be stored; or
    (iii) a display cabinet or rack in which firearms may
    be immobilised and locked so that none of them
    may be fired
    ; and
    (b) keeping locked or immobilised and locked in the cabinet,
    container, receptacle, strongroom, display cabinet,
    or rack required by paragraph (a) every firearm which
    is on the holder’s premises and which is not under immediate
    and personal supervision of the holder or some
    other holder of a firearms licence; and
    (c) ensuring that no firearm in the holder’s possession is left
    in a vehicle that is unattended.
    Last edited by JWB; 20-12-2018 at 03:37 PM.

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    when i only had a couple of guns i had something like timattalons schematic. it cost me $60 to have made (5mm plate) plus the cost of a padlock. the cops were fine with it. but i still think full enclosure is the way to go as no one can see what you have.

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    Sweet 2 (iii) seems to fit the bill here

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWB View Post
    Are you trying to tell us that your lockable cabinet-container, is too small to accommodate another firearm?
    He, heh, I think we all eventually reach that point. (-:

    Asides from that, a u-lock through the safe and mounting a gun on its outside is a plainly a "rack". But oh the hassle, indeed just get another safe, install it somewhere more obscure than the first one. Keep your most expensive guns in the best hidden safe.
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    From time to time, I have removed the stocks from some of my lesser used rifles and stored only the bolts, mags, and actions in the safe. Saves space.
    Last edited by Max Headroom; 21-12-2018 at 02:09 PM.

 

 

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