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    firearm storage - help appreciated

    My trip to NZ will last from late February until late March. I am planning to spend almost all the time backpack hunting in Canterbury. Occasionally I might stay a night or two in a hotel but that depends on various factors. Anyway I have planned to spend 2 or 3 days in Christchurch at the end of the trip... unless I need the time for hunting.

    Originally I had agreed with Gun City to store my rifle at their premises if necessary.

    Recently I was trying to apply for the visitorís firearms license. Everything went fine until I had to provide details of a NZ firearms license holder. I asked Gun City but they donít seem to be able (or donít want) to provide such details. Pretty understandable as Gun City is a company while I have to provide details of an individual.

    Thus I would like to kindly ask if someone on the forum could provide secure storage for my rifle. It would only be for a few days but it would help me a lot. And Iíd still have Gun City as a backup if you are not at home or something.

    The rifle is an ordinary Tikka T3... so nothing special from a legal point of view.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunterAT View Post
    My trip to NZ will last from late February until late March. I am planning to spend almost all the time backpack hunting in Canterbury. Occasionally I might stay a night or two in a hotel but that depends on various factors. Anyway I have planned to spend 2 or 3 days in Christchurch at the end of the trip... unless I need the time for hunting.

    Originally I had agreed with Gun City to store my rifle at their premises if necessary.

    Recently I was trying to apply for the visitor’s firearms license. Everything went fine until I had to provide details of a NZ firearms license holder. I asked Gun City but they don’t seem to be able (or don’t want) to provide such details. Pretty understandable as Gun City is a company while I have to provide details of an individual.

    Thus I would like to kindly ask if someone on the forum could provide secure storage for my rifle. It would only be for a few days but it would help me a lot. And I’d still have Gun City as a backup if you are not at home or something.

    The rifle is an ordinary Tikka T3... so nothing special from a legal point of view.

    Thanks in advance!
    If it helps the details for Gun City Christchurch are as follows:
    Surname: Tipple
    Forename(s): Beatrice
    Phone No: (03) 379-8888
    Business Name: Gun City Christchurch
    Email: chcmailorder@guncity.co.nz
    Firearms Licence Number: T5101394
    Expiry Date: 29/01/2020

    https://www.guncity.com/function/fil...6-5f5ecf83773b

    Unfortunately I'm not in Christchurch though, so I can't help with the storage.
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    @gadgetman @kotuku can someone down there in the shakey city point this man in a right direction? There you go, that’s how we roll here in NZ.
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    Iíd be happy to store your rifle. Plenty of room in my safe, but Iím about half an hour north of the city so someone more central may be better, depending on how you are getting around.

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    I may well be in aussie that that time next year unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kotuku View Post
    I may well be in aussie that that time next year unfortunately.
    Heading to the wet coast, but not to sure on the brakes?

    I should be able to help. Have a couple of safes.
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    I could easily find a bit of space too, but again I am just north and out of Chch.

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    I could be wrong , but I believe if you provide your name and storage facilities for an overseas visitor to use , then in effect you are sponsoring that person ( for the legal requirements of firearm use ) for the duration of their stay .
    It opens you up to a degree of liability and responsibility if there happens to be an incident or accident.
    Could anyone clarify if this is correct?
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    Thanks everyone for your helpfulness! Highly appreciated!
    Now that you gave me the details I sticked with Gun City. That way I won't mess up anyone's schedule and won't put responsibility on any of you.

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    All the best with your trip mate, and take extra care with those river crossings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ground Control View Post
    I could be wrong , but I believe if you provide your name and storage facilities for an overseas visitor to use , then in effect you are sponsoring that person ( for the legal requirements of firearm use ) for the duration of their stay .
    It opens you up to a degree of liability and responsibility if there happens to be an incident or accident.
    Could anyone clarify if this is correct?

    I don't think the nominated person for "storage" of the firearm has any further obligation or responsibility in respect of the visitor's firearm apart from the responsibility for adequate and suitable storage when it was in his possession, when it would then be as if the firearm were his property and accordingly a charge for care under his FAL. Remember,Plod is primarily concerned with the actions of the person who has the possession of any firearm.

    Any "issues" arising from the visitor's use or misuse of his firearm then the visitor is the person Plod would be asking question of and taking action against .' I gathered that view from this as a requirement to be met by the applicant when applying for a visitors FAL.......
    • "Demonstrate that you have made security arrangements for the safe storage of all firearms that you will be using (regardless of whether they are your own firearms or firearms that you intend to borrow while in New Zealand). You will need to provide the details of the New Zealand firearms licence holder(s) (with a current licence) that you will be storing firearms with while you are in New Zealand"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo View Post
    All the best with your trip mate, and take extra care with those river crossings.
    Thank you! That's definately an important reminder. Respecting my limited experience with river crossing I won't take any risks for sure. I did quite some research on the river crossings in the areas I am intending to visit... so I have at least an idea what river conditions I might have to expect.
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