Anyone seen these? Pretty cool but think they come in a bit heavy for a titanium action and bolt. What everyone's thoughts on these. Have a quick look on Facebook if you haven't seen it.
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Anyone seen these? Pretty cool but think they come in a bit heavy for a titanium action and bolt. What everyone's thoughts on these. Have a quick look on Facebook if you haven't seen it.
Too lazy to find the link myself. Here's another and much cheaper lightweight concept worth looking into, could make rifles in calibres less than .50 BMG significantly lighter too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV7q_zayZK8
https://www.facebook.com/GlacierRifleCompany/
Looks like they make some very cool things.
Havnt got Facebook, what’s the weight like? Who’s barrel do they use?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stocky
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They will use any you like. But Hardy carbon typically. 18 inch on the short action longer in the long action.Quote:
Originally Posted by MSL
Yeh not a huge fan kills the short overall length of a break action plus AR15 parts issues. I can't imagine it's that light either considering the weight of a Bergara ba13 etc. I now compare everything to a Kimber as base level. My 7mm08 kimbers 2.7kgs scoped with full length barrel. But I mostly posted this as a cool kiwi iniative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cordite
Yes, got that, nice FB page. Some really fine precision workmanship there. And you CAN view the page without a FB account.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stocky
I don't think weight is the main consideration for the RN-50 but cost. They weigh between 5.8kg (still light for a .50BMG) and 11.34kg depending on barrel option. Main distinctive contribution is the end-cap doing away with lugs, bolts, receiver, etc. and a perfectly symmetrical cartridge support. Kind of a shame they went with the AR 'lower' as any hammer-based mechanism means unneccessary longer lock-time for no real gain. I think it's just because AR15 lowers are commonplace and familiar in the US.
If they’re making their own action, stock, and bottom metal, then it’s very coolQuote:
Originally Posted by Stocky
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Action, stock, bottom metal Magazine, recoil pad, rail etc all in house outsource barrels but working in developing some lightweight steel barrels in house.
Just down the road from Dpt ;-)
so where are any details about this action on their facebook page...absolutely nothing!, and someone posted say what a great facebook page!
Tron?Quote:
Originally Posted by Friwi
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Their website isn't released until later this month. These guys are flatout with projects, give them a bit of time. So far their products look awesome. The whole thing looks very professional
@MSL yep tron
They are building the website to be completed this month. Just pm them for details they are pretty responsiveQuote:
Originally Posted by NZVarminter
They look pretty good.
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That's heavier than a kimber. Action is also heavier than most custom actions which is a shame. Especially with a titanium bolt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tikka7mm08
GRC at 21.3ozs
Lone peaks are around 20 ozs for a short action
The Steel Defiance anTi are 21ish I believe.
The peirce featherweight action that's a titanium receiver and bolt is only 15ozs but likely 16ozs as it doesn't include recoil lug.
Plus all the other customs allow for a longer magazine.
I like the NZ iniative but a few suggestions I would make would be to shave some weight to warrant full titanium.
Allow a flush mag vs detachable
Have scope mounts available vs rail.
Still epic kiwi stuff and if a few of the above changed I'd buy one. They will also build with your spec parts ie different barrels or triggers.
cough,choke what? north of 6 n a half k for an ordinary bolt action rifle,bare?
I sure don't fit their market profile
People regularly $5.5k for a bare sako carbonlight. Im interested in these GRC rifles, especially being NZ made. What an awesome thing to support
Custom rifles usually cost between 5 and 7 k to put together, and there’s plenty of people buying and selling themQuote:
Originally Posted by widerange
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Ordinary would be ignoring multiple thingsQuote:
Originally Posted by widerange
Actual carbon match barrel
Titanium action and bolt (most custom titanium action run near 3k and don't have a titanium bolt)
Made in NZ
Carbon stock.
It's effectively just an nz made custom rifle. Say 1000 in a carbon stock
300 for a trigger
400ish for a titanium bottom metal (likely more)
1250 for a carbon barrel plus 500ish for smithing
Action (3k for a titanium Lone peak as an approcimate equivalent)
That's a decent breakdown there ignoring the incidentals as well. Might be to expensive for most but so is any custom. There's a reason everything else is cheaper it's that they re made in a factory overseas in a production line. Can't compare the 2.
I've seen these rifles in person. You can't comprehend how light they are. The workmanship is absolutely incredible. You truly can't see the quality and perfection these guys have for their craft in pictures.
Actions are smooth, really nice components. They can also drop a howa or any other action in the carbon stock if wanted.
They also do benelli m2 shotguns, pure works of art.
Still weigh more than a kimber. I didn't think the magazine was any longer either. I like the idea but I think the actions are about 6 ozs too heavy for a titanium action and bolt. Would have hoped they would have been in that 15 or 16 ozs
Be nicer (and lose some weight also) if the action was an open bridge design so could run internal mag box. It's a must in a lightweight hunting rifle for me. One of the reasons I can't stand the tikka platform, faffing around with a stuck round in a port eject action in a hunting situation doesn't spin my wheels
