Thread: Good first hunting rifle?

While nice glass is nice and all i think some of these comments are a bit misleading.

For instance around a grand will get a nice glass reliable scope that is ten times better than a 250 dollar one while a 3k or more scope may have better glass its not by much, infact very little.
Diminishing returns in the field of optics and dollars.

I think bill999 was selling a fairly cheap rifle on here in two calibers one a brand new barrel.