Thread: Gun city quality firearms…. Yea na

I don't understand why we can't discuss and complain about Gun City without threads being shut down. It's a valid and necessary thing for us to do if a retailer is substandard. Do they advertise on here or something.

Nobody has shut down threads about Hunting and Fishing in my recollection.

Originally Posted by John Duxbury

I don't understand why we can't discuss and complain about Gun City without threads being shut down. It's a valid and necessary thing for us to do if a retailer is substandard. Do they advertise on here or something.

Nobody has shut down threads about Hunting and Fishing in my recollection.

That's because most of the H&F whinge fests are in the now hidden 'Firearms Law Changes' section. Hidden 2 years before you joined.

like fat berg Ive always found GC staff and David tipple bloody excellent when I had a problem .even given bonus ammo on one occasion after Id purchased a rifle which developed a fault - DT ordered immediate replacement with new one . Iring up find out who imspeaking to and when i go in ask for that person . never fails .
my treatment at another major retail store was in complete contrast so My attendance there is only ever a matter of utter neccesity and now Im a pensioner itll remain thsat way

I’ve been dealing with GC and Dave Tipple since his early days. Haven’t had a bad experience yet but like all businesses it might happen. Like any business they do have the odd employee that talks a load of shit, just smile and move on. Just remember DT supports gun sports and didn’t throw certain firearm owners under the bus like another outfit did a few years ago.

Originally Posted by John Duxbury

I don't understand why we can't discuss and complain about Gun City without threads being shut down. It's a valid and necessary thing for us to do if a retailer is substandard. Do they advertise on here or something.

Nobody has shut down threads about Hunting and Fishing in my recollection.

Because it just turns into a whining bitch fest and we have heard it all before....

It just seems an obvious thing to do in checking the threads Its really not that hard. The people I shoot with know their firearms, they know what thread is on their barrel, then all I do but most probably dont do this, is inspect my suppressor what Im looking for is damage etc (I have had one that had a little bulge in it and it got thrown away) give it a shake look through it and make sure its not blocked and hey there's the thread its got stamped on it does it match my rifle? Then screw it on being careful not to cross thread it, seen that done a few times. and its really that easy. Yea yea I know you shouldn't have to.........but look what can happen if you dont.

Originally Posted by blip

It just seems an obvious thing to do in checking the threads Its really not that hard. The people I shoot with know their firearms, they know what thread is on their barrel, then all I do but most probably dont do this, is inspect my suppressor what Im looking for is damage etc (I have had one that had a little bulge in it and it got thrown away) give it a shake look through it and make sure its not blocked and hey there's the thread its got stamped on it does it match my rifle? Then screw it on being careful not to cross thread it, seen that done a few times. and its really that easy. Yea yea I know you shouldn't have to.........but look what can happen if you dont.

Plenty of suppressor don't have their thread marked on them.

Originally Posted by blip

It just seems an obvious thing to do in checking the threads Its really not that hard. The people I shoot with know their firearms, they know what thread is on their barrel, then all I do but most probably dont do this, is inspect my suppressor what Im looking for is damage etc (I have had one that had a little bulge in it and it got thrown away) give it a shake look through it and make sure its not blocked and hey there's the thread its got stamped on it does it match my rifle? Then screw it on being careful not to cross thread it, seen that done a few times. and its really that easy. Yea yea I know you shouldn't have to.........but look what can happen if you dont.

The thing is, it would be fair to say most owners of a threaded barrel wouldn’t know by looking at it, what thread it is, if I ask a gunsmith to put a 14x1 or a 15x1 thread on a muzzle, I would assume that the thread is correct because the suppressor fits.

I had had four different muzzles threaded successfully before I found out that the gunsmith should have the suppressor at hand to do the job. And that was from a highly reputable gunsmith who I admittedly put in the situation but there was no mention of it at the time.

I guess one takeaway from this thread is that it is important to know what you’re buying and fitting together, satisfy yourself and don’t take the word of anyone who has a financial interest (this applies across the board not to only one retailer) in reassuring you. Yes items may have a good warranty, but a paper promise doesn’t mitigate the loss of driving hours to a range and firing upwards of $50 worth of ammunition to find out something is broken. Or worse still, having gear fail after helicoptering into somewhere in the South Island.

Originally Posted by longshot

The thing is, it would be fair to say most owners of a threaded barrel wouldn’t know by looking at it, what thread it is, if I ask a gunsmith to put a 14x1 or a 15x1 thread on a muzzle, I would assume that the thread is correct because the suppressor fits.

I had had four different muzzles threaded successfully before I found out that the gunsmith should have the suppressor at hand to do the job. And that was from a highly reputable gunsmith who I admittedly put in the situation but there was no mention of it at the time.

I guess one takeaway from this thread is that it is important to know what you’re buying and fitting together, satisfy yourself and don’t take the word of anyone who has a financial interest (this applies across the board not to only one retailer) in reassuring you. Yes items may have a good warranty, but a paper promise doesn’t mitigate the loss of driving hours to a range and firing upwards of $50 worth of ammunition to find out something is broken. Or worse still, having gear fail after helicoptering into somewhere in the South Island.

The whole "suppressor needs to be in hand" to cut muzzle threads is due to piss poor understanding of thread geometry and quality control from suppressor manufacturers. There are thread standards for a reason and in my experience only a couple of manufacturers get this right. As a result, if a muzzle thread is cut perfectly to spec, it can still be loose as hell on a poorly made suppressor, hence many smiths insisting on needing the can in hand.

We should all be using a taper behind the thread instead of a square shoulder, this would negate all requirements for accurately cut threads. The locking and alignment comes from the taper and the threads are used to just lock and unlock the taper.

Unfortunately, getting worldwide manufacturers to agree on a standard for something like this is pretty much impossible.

I can "tighten" a 15x1 A-tec suppressor onto a factory threaded 14x1 Tikka - there wouldn't be much in the way of thread engagement and it doesn't feel "correct" but it definitely doesn't slide on and off ...

I bet if you give it a good tighten it will pull the threads in the suppressor

Like buying ammo does anyone check the packet, or do you just go and buy a pack and throw it in the rifle?

Guess I might be a bit ocd on checking stuff now after doing all the dumb shit in the past. Forgot bolt, forgot mag took wrong bolt for rifle, took wrong ammo, wrong suppressor. Yea done it all in the past so I check check check now

yes Blip good advice packing for even a one day hunt rifle bolt ammo knife boots first - and last thing check again - but gunsmiths and shops - had a good run except for one bloody muppet in Gisborne - took my Rem BDL .222 in for new barrel - fitted a Hawken barrel - to my horror when I picked it up from shop he had polished the jewelling of the bolt - I was mortified - why ohhhhh why

Half by 28 us hard to confuse with anything else