thanks, they are a good pill the corelokts, have seen them used to great effect on tahr despite being labelled "cheap and nasty" I accidently bought a box of 100 130gr VLDs a while back for my 270win (was supposed to have ordered 150gr) but I hung onto them hoping to do something with them one day so will see if I can get them going as a "spook and shoot" load, keep them in the mag, and the 150s in my pocket
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