I know a bloke that is the opposite, he has a VX6 on a savage axis 223, I tell him he needs to up his rifle game to suit his scope but in all fairness he is very successful with that little setup and bowls over deer with it every other week.
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I know a bloke that is the opposite, he has a VX6 on a savage axis 223, I tell him he needs to up his rifle game to suit his scope but in all fairness he is very successful with that little setup and bowls over deer with it every other week.
that should be the case in a perfect world
you don't need a lazer accurate rifle for general purpose hunting but you do need to be able to see what your shooting at sometimes in the worst lighting conditions possible
and that's when scopes get set apart its not those sunny perfect range days out in the open with plenty of light any scope will look ok there.... its 1/2 hour before dark in thick bush having good glass might mean the difference between getting your quarry or not
To be fair, the Axis may be the budget model from Savage but it still has a good reputation for accuracy. Not such a good reputation for being nice rifles, but from what I hear they do shoot straight.
I think this whole Swaro v vortex v zeiss yadda yadda is much like when you buy a tv. Go into shop u can see all the models in one place..... Take one home, u then have nothing to compare it too, unless you buy 4 and sit them next to each other= unlikely for most of us.
If you own all of the above scopes and can sit them next to each other, at the same time then you're prolly much more likely to be accurate in your comparison, otherwise, memory bending, eye problems , dimentia , alstheimers, and monetary pride will have more of an effect on performance of scopes used at separate times. Also if you do use a shit scope, and do shoot some deer, and plenty do, you'll prolly have a much better opinion of said glass, just cos "it worked" .
That said, I DO want a Z3, maybe Mrs Santa will read this.
@ANTSMAN our TV just got way better, when I wear my glasses lol turns out the TV is just past my short sighted limits
I bought a Schmidt and Bender last year,its about 10 years old but some of the best money I have spent on hunting gear.Used scopes are cheap over here,paid $250 NZD for it.
Not much wanking over guns going on only bullshit over optics[emoji57][emoji57]
Don't buy Vortex only Kahles. All the rest are crap.
Now back to rifles please...
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Ok I think I've given up on a second hand 308. So looking at tikka 308 l/h stainless less in factory stock with dpt suppressor, Harris biped, leupold 6.5-20*50 pick coming once it all comes together. Questions, a better stock? Muzzle break instead of a Dpt? Going to be used on the island half the year 25-200m shots, the other half of the year Canterbury so out as far as I get comfortable shooting. No ideas,on a load yet, but using 2206h for the 223 so same powder would be handy, thinking 150 sst amax
Tikka stocks are fine, in fact I reckon they are probably one of the stiffer factory synthetic stocks out there, I put a carbon fibre stock on mine and it made it a bit nicer to carry but it still shot the same (really well) and I ended up selling it and going back to the factory one as the money tied up in it was better spent elsewhere.
Extra 50000000 cool points though with a carbon stock....
If youre going to use 150sst look at just using factory superformance, you will have trouble getting a handload to go faster and when I sighted in @sambnz's t3 308 with it, it shot like a laser
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Have found factory shoots better in my 223 than I can reload.... Would need to spend alot of time and $ to bring my reloading up to a higher level. Got a few part boxes of factory to try it with
6.5-20 is a bloody lot of magnification for 25-200y!
I would not go above 4x for any bush work and 3x is better 2x is great.
I would just chuck a 2-7 on it while on the island and you can chuck the hubble back on it when youre up in canterbury
Sorry, should have added that I have a Bushnell 2.5-10 that will go ontop when on island, or my Bushnell 1.5-4 seeing it up for now though
If someone tells me factory is better than reloads I question how well they have tried to replicate the factory load. Same or similar projectile shape and or seating depth will usually get you in the ballpark.
Could also be oversizing/bumping the shoulder of the brass too much.
In saying that I have had 4 .223s.
I have used the same load for years.
Just seating depth has varied between them.
You can always reload better ammo than a factory can produce imo.
You just have to find the right ingredients and recipe.
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@R93 yeah I figure I haven't found the right recipe yet factory is shooting well under MOA, figure I'm not guna need to be shooting better than that since I'm hunting not knocking steel at half a mile away
Fair enough and sound reasoning. But if you have the gear there is no reason you cannot equal or better it.
Pm me your mag length and I will send you some loads to try that will be well under max charge.
If they go as good as your factory loads they are cheap and easy to replicate once you work up to a max safe pressure.
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or 15 yo double casked?
That plastic thing, will come with real metal gun ( turn bolt though....)
[QUOTE=R93;484090]Deal.
As long as it is Abalour 12 yr matured in sherry cask
I will do my best. Send it over with the other thing that I will be too embarrassed to admit will be living in my safe
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[QUOTE=Beaker;484106]or 15 yo double casked?
Never tried it. Didn't know it existed.
I will look for it duty free on my trip home😆
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[QUOTE=R93;484110][QUOTE=Beaker;484106]or 15 yo double casked?
Never tried it. Didn't know it existed.
I will look for it duty free on my trip home
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If you go Aberlour (and why wouldn't anyone) then a must try is the Cask strength A'bunadh (spelling might be off but you will find it). Xmas.
Desert Eagle in .44 Magnum.
Easily the second "shitest" pistol I have owned,but since I have a tiny cock I had to buy one.
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