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A friend has a Westley Richards side by side 12g for sale at a reasonable price.
How do I identify the serial number and if it is the real thing?
Lots of numbers under the barrels etc and I don't know if it's the real deal etc.
Please pm and I will email photos.
Cheers.
Dont think you can pm attachments better to put them here
Sorry,
Mean't to say PM your e-maill addy and I can send photos.
I will add some pics tomorrow.
Cheers @Plinky and @Marty Henry
Not an expert on shotguns (horrible things) but did see this hard to read item
https://www.theexplora.com/westley-r...erial-numbers/
As for if it's the real thing - did you highlight the Westley Richards. for the photo? If not this looks to be very "fresh".
If 6984 is a serial number it would put it in the 1882-1891 range which doesn't seem to gel as the gun is both hammerless and nitro proofed.
Solid steel tubes not Damascus.
Someone will be able to interpret all the number just like reading the newspaper.
Bloody Gold inlay can burn your eyes @zimmer!:D
Never had a gun with gold in it @Maca49. Haven't even got any gold in my teeth.:sick::(Quote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
Ill sell you one?:ORLY:
Good man Maca, you don't need all those gold fillings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
Just mention me and the tooth in your will - that will be sufficient for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
BTW still looking around for a Weihrauch.
Sign of a wealthy man GM? Beautiful smile plus alway smiling even when not happy just to show them off?Quote:
Originally Posted by gadgetman
Ive been to the camps where Jewish people were stood against a brick wall and their teeth checked, any gold and the signal went to the sod behind the wall who put a pistol up to the missing brick behind their head and pulled the trigger, the gold then removed:sick:
Yes unfortunately very somber and true. To lighten it up a bit one of the mines I worked in had an HR manager who was into gold - flash gold watch, flash gold ciggy holder, gold lighter (no gold teeth though). Always made a great show of checking the time, and lighting up a ciggy in the presence of up baggy arses. Pity he had no gold in his heart though as far as our wage negotiations were concerned.
I didn't think that was the serial number... I though it was 2373 which to the right of the flats and makes it a 1920's gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmer
Back on track guys, birmingham proofmarks with nitro proof so after 1880, nice boxlock patented i 1875 the deely patent ejector is later 84 or 85 a shot of under the fore arm should confirm this.
Google westley richards, the company offers a serial no tracking service and you can pay for a gun history if the records are available.
So which is the serial num?
Attachment 62493
Looking at images for others the serial number seems to be on the metal behind the trigger guard.Quote:
Originally Posted by 300_BLK
http://josephsvintageguns.com/gun-details.asp?gun=285
Hi F
Your Westley Richards gun (serial number 6984) was made (and Birmingham prooved) circa 1890, and then the gun (and original barrels) was re-proved at the Birmingham Proof House during the 1925 - 1954 period. The R with a crown is the re-proof mark and the block letter stamps and Nitro Proof, 2-1/2", 1-1/8 oz marks were applied at this time. This gun was 10,817th gun made under Anson & Deeley's patent boxlock design which was first introduced by Westley Richards in 1875. There were two distinct Deeley's patent ejector systems (1884 & 1886) and I would think your gun has the latter system as it was the 2082nd gun made with those ejectors.
I am speculating now but I would expect the gun was brought back to NZ by a farmer's son returning from his big OE in the 1920's. Well-heeled farming families were well known for sending their sons away to Great Britian to further their education during this time, and most were instructed by their fathers to 'bring me back a good gun'. I have encountered many such good quality English guns that came to NZ this way during those years. Of course, the practice was also popular during the 1950's and good used guns were very cheap at that time.
The family crest with the crowned dragon is worthy of further research, possibly a Welsh family. Large public libraries often have very comprehensive books listing all UK family crests.
The gun appears to have done a good bit of work and I would not be able to comment on its current safety without a personal examination.
That would be right for the date it was made 2 inch were also made.Quote:
Originally Posted by muzza
If you shut the gun and hold it up side ways against a light and you see a light between the barrels and the action. Then this would mean that it is off the faces. Which would hazard a guess mean that it would need some work by a good gun smith to bring it back onto the face.
Ps don't use 70mm cartages in it ah:O_O:
