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    Home made safe

    Hi all . Anyone done a home made rifle safe ? Here's a start to my one . All aluminium as a pose to steel , I figure I could break into a steel cabinet just as easy as an aluminium one. Will have all the correct locking mechanisms required for A-cat requirements in New Zealand. Here's a start anyway 1800 tall 1400 wide 600 deep . Will feature an ammunition shelf on the rhs. STAY TUNED for updates !!!


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    It would pay to check the AO and see if they will accept ali or if there is a different thickness requirement to steel for what would pass as A-cat for an ali safe.

    I know a few won't look at ali sheet same situation as the old sheet metal lockers (can unzip them with a chisel apparently).
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    Quote Originally Posted by pepper123 View Post
    Hi all . Anyone done a home made rifle safe ? Here's a start to my one . All aluminium as a pose to steel , I figure I could break into a steel cabinet just as easy as an aluminium one. Will have all the correct locking mechanisms required for A-cat requirements in New Zealand. Here's a start anyway 1800 tall 1400 wide 600 deep . Will feature an ammunition shelf on the rhs. STAY TUNED for updates !!!


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    Please update mate, very interested as I am making one this year. Nice size-
    But Alloy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Please update mate, very interested as I am making one this year. Nice size-
    But Alloy?
    Yea why not alloy ? Half the weight for it's size and I work with steel aswell and I can tell you I'd have a hard time breaking into both


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    Mmmmm pp housing
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    The ali plate is a shitload easier to cut with basic tools. A circular wood saw can whip an access hole in ali a piece of piss and a lot more houses have wood working equipment than steel gear.

    I cut a few hatches in my charter boat in 6mm and 10mm plate with the cordless circular saw and a new blade - the narrow curf type...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauser308 View Post
    The ali plate is a shitload easier to cut with basic tools. A circular wood saw can whip an access hole in ali a piece of piss and a lot more houses have wood working equipment than steel gear.

    I cut a few hatches in my charter boat in 6mm and 10mm plate with the cordless circular saw and a new blade - the narrow curf type...
    Even chain drilling into ali is a piece of piss compared to 6mm steel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetroot View Post
    Even chain drilling into ali is a piece of piss compared to 6mm steel.
    The idea is to make it not so extremely heavy like steel for the size , it's going to be a big cabinet and if it were steel I would need at least 6 people to lift it at that size . Once she's all bolted to the wall and floor it will be fine , if someone was so desperate they are going to be making a hell of a racket trying to get into it and it won't b a 5 mintute job , there's still a security system to get through . This is mainly to keep the kids out and when they are old enough they won't need to break into it . Definitely valid points from everyone, but I'm not expecting a team of masked burglers with gas torches and hole saws to get a big princess diamond


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    Keen to see updates on this. I can definitely appreciate the desire to keep weight down. Moving a steel safe is no fun xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvester View Post
    Moving a steel safe is no fun xD
    That's kind of the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    That's kind of the idea.
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    If someone wants something bad enough it doesn't really matter what or how heavy or where they will get it
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    If you really wanted to reduce the weight you could try polystyrene - it also creates a hell of a noise when you try to cut it.

    For these things (the safes) the rules state 6mm mild steel or engineer approved alternative for endorsed weapons, for A-cat there are standards for thicknesses as well which I can't recall off the top of my head (3mm wall, 4mm door or is it 3mm door and something else for the wall???). Construction should be of workmanlike construction, and it goes on. I really don't know how you would get on with fixings and the like and if the worst happened you would have to justify the material choice compared to what is recommended so you would need to unsure you have the answer ready for yields, failure pressures just because you've gone a different way.

    In this case it's not about any particular reason that ali won't work - if you go for a thick enough plate that would cover your arse (biggest problem with building your own) in a worst case situation with the guidance provided on thickness you ain't saving weight and definately not cost.

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    Good on ya for making your own.
    But im afraid a chisel and hammer will open up ali like a zip.



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    So all these a cat approved cabinets like hot water cylinder cupboards that can be opened with a foot are more sturdy than an aluminium safe?
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