A good mix of passion, experience and a shit ton of money
160ftlb recoil-ouch. That doesnt count buying 4 of them or the ammunition
https://www.americanrifleman.org/con...nitro-express/
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A good mix of passion, experience and a shit ton of money
160ftlb recoil-ouch. That doesnt count buying 4 of them or the ammunition
https://www.americanrifleman.org/con...nitro-express/
at a mere $400,000 for a new rifle its a bargain...Mr Songhurst the first and second will be ordering one soon enough so we can hear about how they preform on fallow does at 50 yards LOL....
I can actually confirm 375HnH works well on fallowQuote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
@muzza article says much the same but supposedly a rich bugger started it off
most companies would have shortened or lengthened the case by 1/4" and carried on making them.....the new "600 smokeless express"...they still could do it.
Bloody mad !
Just reading on the 600 nitro, elephant skull penetration 27”, considered adequate :cool:
You mean Bloody Awesome,Quote:
Originally Posted by chainsaw
Makes my 416 remmy look weeny. Almost twice the muzzle energy and over 3x the recoil from firearm that weighs twice as much
And yes the 416 has taken a red deer...and a couple of cattle beasts lol
So a lucky punter can pick up a cheap one second hand soon?Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Well I can appreciate and understand the passion ( insanity ) that inspired the 700 NE
But there are plenty of existing options that are as effective in reality
577 NE and 500 NE will have all the power anyone could ever need and better bullet selection in a much more manageable size and weight rifle
Personally I would draw the line at a 577 Light Nitro as the biggest I would want to shoulder fire
But then I don't have the need for that many Foot pounds on target
If I did need all that power and penetration I expect I could get sufficient from a 500 NE and the correct bullets and be able to comfortably do a lot of practice with it prior to facing off with a big bad and ugly target species
@akaroa1 definitely but if the article is correct the buy had the desire and the money to own a shit ton of double rifles etc and used quite a few of them and often.
It almost sounded like he was using a solid chunk of what I earn in a year on safaris every year, plus buying the ammunition etc.
Very rich and used to getting what he wants all the time.
On the Africa hunting forum I go on the recoil thing comes up a bit. Especially the 460 Weatherby. It is one of those calibres that does pretty much what anyone might need %99.9 of the time but has savage recoil. Quite a few on there say they had on/shot one and went yeah... Nah. Mine has a respectable shove to it and the Weatherby is half as much again on the shoulder
This picture
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indicates Trumpesque levels of vanity so while new guns are always a good thing, he comes across as a tosser
Also, maybe it's just me but anyone who shoots an elephant is a right arsehole in my books
They're a big hua for sure.
Here's one against a .318WR for scale.
https://i.vgy.me/DdOoBS.jpg
A few of the larger varmint calibres.....L to R: 600 Nitro Express (900 grain bullet); 700 NE (1000 grain bullet, 8900 foot pounds muzzle energy; 10 gauge rifle load; .729 Jongmans (1000 grain bullet); .4 bore rifle load (1800 grain bullet).
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I was impressed that Feldstein had 5000 rounds made and sold to collectors for $500,000 financing the project and turning a profit. Very clever man, so a free set of custom rifles and changeQuote:
Originally Posted by csmiffy
@308 I would agree. Whilst I do have aspirations to do an African hunt one day, I am more interested in Cape buffalo. Also while not quite politically correct if money was no issue I wouldn't mind a Lion or Leopard.Quote:
Originally Posted by 308
The sad part is in the example of elephants, they have to be culled to keep the numbers down in some areas to prevent damage to the ecosystem. The funds raised by people paying to do so helps game management and anti-poaching.
Again I realise it all helps, it isn't something I could do.
yeah I got 3 on the way.....:roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
well....if hunting is the mans lifelong passion..why not have portrate done...it could have been present from his dear wife or kids..... and shooting jumbos has been going on for a long time....the numbers are so high now if they arent shot they and everything else will starve...who are we to say its better they are culled to rot,than harvested for meat or indeed for trophy value...the income from safari will make huge contribution to conservation fullstop...Quote:
Originally Posted by 308
its no different to saying anyone who shoots a red stag is an arsehole....lets just 1080 poison them all instead.
William Bell shot a lot of them with the 6.5 Mannlicher
Wouldn't it save time all round if Mr @Ryan_Songhurst just gave someone half the new price in cash? Cut out the middle man in a way. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Sorry I didn't know that they needed culling due to numbers, I thought they were thin on the ground so fair enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
I wouldn't shoot one personally but I stand by the picture's resemblance to something like this
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Eww
I find it somewhat disturbing you knew where to access that particular painting.......and IF the two were even somewhat similar...Trump would be surrounded by money in many different denominations and towering buildings,his two quests in life if beautiful women arent counted.
I always thought he was a cricketer
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450/400 and 500
older bull elephants eventually get too old to have high quality offspring but are big enough to kill the younger bull's so they do get culled. usually via an auction for hunting rights with the meat being given to the local communities. and the hundred's of thousands of dollars going to conservation.Quote:
Originally Posted by 308
Well these 500 NE dies arrived in the courier new years eve
I have two 500 BPE rifles and now I think I will have to build a full noise 500 nitro express just for the hell of it
Also building a 577 Super Snider so the bigger diameter end is well covered off
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But no funds left available for commissioning a portrait with my favorite guns and trophies
It was very boring to use on sheep tho even with hollow points it just went straight through thought i had missed, left a great blood trail tho looked like an arrow went though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst
Yip he played stand in 12th man for the New Jersey Salvation Army 3rd Eleven.A well known fact if you're in the loopQuote:
Originally Posted by NRT
I have a memory Robert Dollimore out at Tarawera built a .700 double some years back. I never saw the thing but a few of the locals did, and they commented it was a wondrous thing.
I can't find any referance to it on the internet, so am wondering if he finished it.
Robert had done his time at Pordey's, which some consider to be the equal, if not the superior to Holland & Holland - and he had a good 'eye' for what was right and what was wrong - the homebuilt rifle I had taken along for him to look at being ........... 'a piece of shit'.
I then enjoyed ten minutes of education in which I learned that no one without proper training can envisage, nor build a gun possessing any beauty or worthwhileness - zero exceptions.
I went on to shoot 7 or 8 deer with that piece of 'shit' - that gun never knew it was worthless.
He's dead now - and I'm annoyed I never saw that .700 ................ or even the 'bones of it'.
I'm very sad Robert is gone I had a lot of time for him & he helped me a lot on some work, I suppose a bit of a Gun snob but excellent craftsmen.
He built a .700 Single shot bud & used the pattern off my 12 Bore Double rifle (built on 8 or 4 bore action) Butt stock to stock the rifle, I saw it in a few stages but unfortunately not fully fished !
