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Hey guys,
I have narrowed it down to one of these two for my lightweight 28 nosler, now I know neither is particularly light but I want 50-56 objective milrad and over 20x for the long shots,
Keen to hear from guys that have or still have either of them and what would you pick and why?
Cheers Cam,
i think they are both amazing scopes, you are talking your time on scope selection. I would go nightforce because of duribility and toughness. those Kahles are getting real popular with PRS shooters in the u.s. both will be track mint. Glass will be really close. I love nightforce 100 percent confidence. https://rifletalk.org/2017/04/22/rev...top-scope-duo/ = Kahles review the paralax is cool on them.
What about a s&b?
The 5-25 pm2 is too heavy and want more mag than the ultra shorts
I have a Kahles k624i SKMR and rate it highly.
The kahles is a little longer then the nightforce f1 by 15mm
The kahles is lighter in weight than the nightforce f1 by 75grams or so
The kahles has the same eye relief and the f1
The kahles has a larger field of view than the f1 at both 6x vs 5x and at 24x vs 25x
I prefer the reticle in the kahles over the f1
The kahles is cheaper than the nightforce f1...
Nightforce f1 has more adjustment than the kahles (34MIL vs 23MIL) as well
Thanks Gillie I don't think I will run out of adjustment on this one it will shoot pretty flat :)
I run a Kahles on my RPR, love it, a very user friendly high quality scope. Many many years ago a good friend of mine told me to always buy Kahles. Unfortunately I have never had the cash until recently, and now have 4 of them, so I am probably biased. Plus Im not a fan of NF. Pretty sure you wont be disappointed in either.
14 grams more?Quote:
Originally Posted by camo wsm
One less chocolate bar ?
None of your options are any good for a lightweight 28 nosler, haha
Depends how far you want to shoot... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by camo wsm
The kahles are like 900 grams ishQuote:
Originally Posted by longrange308
Don't make me get a March....Quote:
Originally Posted by MSL
Your just too greedy on the magnification
#magwhoreQuote:
Originally Posted by MSL
As far as I've seen from reviews online, the Vortex razor HD gen 2 series is the best on the market for features and quality as the general consensus is that nightforce is getting stale in the market due to the lack of modernising or updating their scopes.
Now kahles is an amazing quality product, but it's not better than the top shelf vortex stuff and the Vortex warranty is the best in the business... you can literally throw your rifle out of your car while driving down the highway and claim a free repair job.
Well that's my opinion derived from countless hours researching scopes that are out of my budget anyway... I've never handled the Vortex Razor series but I have handled and used the kahles and nightforce and they were of exceptional quality, but not 2-3k more than my Viper PST.
Got a Nikko mountmaster here for sale, pm if interested.
Kahles k624i = NZ$4300 from Kilwells Sports websiteQuote:
Originally Posted by Macca
Vortex Razor HD gen II = NZ$4255 from NZ Guns website (down from NZ$5125)
Vortex is ~400grams heavier and shorter in length than the Kahles.
The Gen 2 Razor has a better FOV than both the Kahles, and Nightforce and a lot better than a PM2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gillie
Unfortunately there is no free lunch as the trade off is the crazy weight.
I don't think any of the mentioned scopes are the best choice if weight is an issue, but in saying that if FFP and great turrets are a must I'm not sure what will fit the bill and not weight half the weight of a Sako finlite
I've got a Razor Gen 2. Awesome scope but as everyone says its got some weight to it - 1.1kg. @camo wsm have you considered the Gen 2 PST 5-25x50? It has 20mil elevation and comes in at about 800 grams.
Cheers guys I have considered vortex and really wanted to try the razor amg 6-24x50 but no one seems to have one or any experience with them? And as there is no Nz distributor I'd have to get it in from Aussie and pretty nervous committing to it sight unseen
Wouldn't a 3-24x52 march fit he bill perfectly, not only much lighter but also compact and would suit a hunting rifle probably better??
Nope I have had about 6 march scopes glass isn't awesome and had one that needed repair and it became my problem so never againQuote:
Originally Posted by PerazziSC3
I like the idea of the red button on the Kahles letting you know your on the second revolution on the turrets and I like the MKSR reticle.
But I'm a Nightforce junkie, bomb proof, reliable clicks, illuminated reticle and zero stop is my main criteria. Weight? well that's what a slings for. If I didn't get a Nightforce for my next scope a Vortex Razor gen2 would be next on the list, I like there turret locks and illumination setup, they also have a very good warranty if it was needed.
Love NF but mag range too restrictive as an all rounder hunter unless you choose 3.5-15. Top end good enough for 600m bottom ok for bush.
I ended up with a Lieca magnus after considering swaro Z8 and Zeiss v8 . For dedicated long range NF are superb . I use my 5.5-22 NSX or BEAST.
I'm a nightforce slut, just picked another 2 up.
as far as been behind in advancements I would say they are more like,
let's not put out a hurried product let's research test evaluate test reavaluate then put on the market.
there is no no compromise on the 3Rs.
rugged reliable repeatable.
end of story!
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I'd like one of the Kahles but have no need for it
I'm not a big scope person and find the 3x12S&B and 3x10 etc plenty for my needs out to as far as I need
have the 3x10x42 N/F in Mil
Great scope.