A mate of mine re-enlisted to prove a point that 38yr olds can still put boot to arse. He's back at 6RAR QLD again, 20 years after we marched out for the last time.
A mate of mine re-enlisted to prove a point that 38yr olds can still put boot to arse. He's back at 6RAR QLD again, 20 years after we marched out for the last time.
@Dead is better have you been visiting some sort of gay military interest site? :wtfsmilie:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dead is better
So that must be the new Steyr. I can see why we chose the AR15.
Their new steyrs don't look too bad but apparently the triggers are just as bad as I remember. Hope the cocking handles don't snap off anymore
The top one... they started using them a few years back, the are designed to stop a few live rounds,in the unfortanante event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dead is better
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As you can see they add at least another 3in to the weapons overall length. Bottom on is for the gun.
http://www.lithgowarms.com/portfolio-item/bullet-trap/
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one of my mates cut his hand open when the cocking handle broke, bled like a stuck pigQuote:
Originally Posted by Dead is better
I missed this if any wants vid of the new rifle,
not really a fan of stuff but
New $59 million weapons package begins Defence Force rollout | Stuff.co.nz
Some of the comments on that article are painful.
Wow an increase in range from 300-600 meters! Unfortunately although they may be trained to shoot a rifle, some soldiers have only the most basic concept of ballistics.
OK so an ACOG IS way better than the old 1.5 Steyr scope but it wont magically double the range of the round. even if combined with 77 grain projectiles. We shot the AUG out to 600 m a couple of times and they still made holes in the targets...
How come they're so expensive at 6.5 grand. Surely the army could get a better price than that.
the civilian price is 2 grand usa dollars. For a bare rifle.
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You would be surprised what is taught at section level.Quote:
Originally Posted by 300CALMAN
Most section commanders have been there and done that.
600 would be section fire capability. Not individual.
A lot of shooting comps within the Army start out to 500.
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Wasn't the army using front stuffers and black powder, when you and rushy were in ?Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
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I would not be surprised what is taught at section level, probably has't changed much. I just learned to shut up and avoid being told to F**** off to OCS :DQuote:
Originally Posted by R93
I have seen some BP stuff shot accurately past 600.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beaker
Rushy had his ID card and dog tags made of stone.
I was still serving this century😆
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The cost is not for the bare rifle, there are lot of ancillary costs. Spare parts, optics, RMRs, magazines, training aids / material, cleaning kits, slings etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russian 22.
I must have been dumb coz I just got told to F off no where in particular 😆Quote:
Originally Posted by 300CALMAN
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Well I suspect by the way they said it that was what they relay meant :DQuote:
Originally Posted by R93
I remember one smart arse sergeant telling me OCS was not for me but "Obstinate C*** School" was :thumbsup: To be honest I was surprised he knew the meaning of obstinate..
Fair enough. I thought it was 6.5 grand for the kitted rifle and not all the training etc that comes along with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
I would think the "System" comes with a lot of parts and tools also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russian 22.
I'd also think armourers would need retraining too.Quote:
Originally Posted by 300CALMAN
Most of the guys that knew/ had experience with SLR/AR gear retired long ago.
Steyr trained blokes will need to 'catch up' with the new weapons systems.
Spread the cost of this plus back up material as mentioned above and $6.5K per unit seems pretty reasonable, as the manufacturer recoups all his development, material and training costs in the first order.
Any later orders (assuming $6.5K/unit is still the buy price), is bulk profit.
Of course, the procurement boys would be aware of this - wouldn't they?
Bloody hope so, and a drop in price for later purchases.
It includeds maintenance tools, optics (seen the cost of the acog they are using!) mags, slings, documentation, storage cases, transport, and I think, the UGL as well (underslung grenade launcher). Its actually a reasonable price, and it wasnt the most expensive option on offer during the trials.Quote:
Originally Posted by WallyR
