Little bit of help ??

Nah not a what caliber question. More like a have you the experience shooting consistently like this to help suggest something
I don't want to do my normal 10 gun purchases to find what I really needed for the job ha ha ..

I need a little help with a caliber I ve not had a lot to do with plus possibly brand selection for a dedicated carry round pest controller.
Wood stainless or plastic stainless fine. Wet conditions it ll get bashed round..
Targets at 200 to 250 meters consistently but bloody flighty. Houses here and there not in the actual shooting area but subtle is good .
.223 just not doing it for me at present. Good gun but bit heavy. But its perfect for some of my other stuff.
Fast and flat needed. Was thinking 22.250 or would .204 be better? Rabbit and Hare size targets but yeah flighty as hell and long shots.
The guy s have been popping away at them heaps from way too far away with .22s with no luck making it quite a hard job at present.
Managed to get quite a few so far . No where near enough though ..
Cant be too big or noisy so 50 cal no good, 6.5 no good or trust me Id be using mine... 20 cal light weight sort of style ?

Any one have any thoughts on a 200 to 250 mtr lite weight ? I have a REM700 7mm Magnum to sell to fund this with
quite a few good bits so a trade if it came up could work ?

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Sounds like the perfect job for a suppressed .223 and some fast moving lightweight projectiles like the 50gr V-max.

Cheers
Pete

borrow Dundee's 22

If you got rid of that fancy stock off the 223 it wouldn't be so heavy

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Originally Posted by Barefoot

If you got rid of that fancy stock off the 223 it wouldn't be so heavy

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Or fun. No after different tool . So you'd say lite weight 223 for the job ? I want to keep my current one in its current form for other stuff and target shooting

[QUOTE=Gapped axe;402288]borrow Dundee's 22[/

That's not a 22 it's a laser beam.

I had very good success with a 204 for what you are describing. A 223 would do it fine but sounds like you want a new toy

Mates got a savage 204 stainless laminate that he's looking to move on. I'll ask him what he wants for it. It's a bull barrel, dunno what length though. 204 is awesome, not much shoots flatter, and it seriously fucks up little critters

I'm probably not the best person to ask about shooting small this things at those distances. You know from seeing the forest block now that there is always something to crawl behind to sneek a bit closer :)
I can't see how a 22/250 will be a real improvement over a 223 given the distance though.

Is this day or night?

Do you want a factory or a custom ? eg .20 cal, is it windy?
Philipo has got/ had a threaded 22-250 for sale that i guarentee can shoot, if your not to hooked on the stainless.

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Is this day or night?

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After work daylight till dark

Just get a 17 hornet! I'll let you know tomorrow, gonna sight in a 200, so 1 high at 100 and 3 Low at 300! There we are job done. Can reload, just get a big Vortex scope and a new pr of glasses and you'll be as good as me!:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by jakewire

Do you want a factory or a custom ? eg .20 cal, is it windy?
Philipo has got/ had a threaded 22-250 for sale that i guarentee can shoot, if your not to hooked on the stainless.

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I think that sold on tardme I was a day late bugger it

Try this then happy
Could though, be just a tad more spendy
http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...-action-21127/

Looks like, since you've discounted the owned 223 for the work needing done that you want a new rifle, thats alright, nothing wrong with that.
Trouble is your calibres are limited within the confines of what you have posted above
rimfires are to short ranged
17 hornet?
17 rem mag. no way I would seriously suggest that.
Supressed 243 with 55gr? Thats getting up there.
Centerfire Choices I see are
Another 223 set the way you want.
Lightweight 22-250 set the way you want.
204 [ losing following and resale] set the way you want.

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Originally Posted by Happy

After work daylight till dark

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Id just get a t3 lite. These small calibres don't really need a heavy barrel or much weight at all.
I use a 1:8 twist .223 you could use a bit flater calibre if you want.
I like mine because I can shoot 50gr at about 3400 and 80's at about 2900 I think. Good in the wind.
range and dail elevation if your not already, a flat calibre can only do so much.
Sounds like you want a new toy, and who doesn't. If not grab a spot light and take them by surprise.

What Blaser have you got, ? , possibly get a .204 barrel for it?

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Happy I think you want/ need either a new play thing in hornet or Ruger.

Have a wee word with @North dude he's had more or these than I've had hot dinners. I do remember salivating over a 22 hornet browning with a miroku barrel in reloaders not so long ago that was as much an art treasure as functional.

Try and find a Howa 1500 mini in 223 Rem and use light weight projectiles for speed. Be a nice light weight rig to carry around.

For versatility the 223 has the edge on the 204 only because of the heavier weights, though barrel twist can have an impact on accuracy with differing weights. A slower twist like 12 or 14 to 1 should stabilise lighter (faster) projectiles better but may not stabilise heavier ones like a 69gr etc. A faster twist like 1-7 or 1-9 may not be good enough with the lighter pills. For varminting the 204 is still my choice, 4200fps to 4400 fps (Hornady Manufacturing Company :: Ammunition :: Rifle :: Choose by Caliber :: 204 Ruger :: 204 Ruger 24 gr NTX® Superformance) factory so if you are 1" high at 100 you have a peak at 150 of 1.2 inches and zero at 230m and 1 inch drop out at 280. That is a 2"circle hit with a zero hold over out to nearly 300 metres.

In saying that, the ultra lite and ultra fast 204 is probably not suited to game goat sized or bigger. With shot placement it could be done but there is far too much room for error so a bit more weight would be needed for that. So if shooting bunnies, hares and wild cats out to 300 and beyond then my choice is 204. But each to their own.

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Try and find a Howa 1500 mini in 223 Rem and use light weight projectiles for speed. Be a nice light weight rig to carry around.

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Shooters on riccaton road had one not long ago.

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Originally Posted by timattalon

For versatility the 223 has the edge on the 204 only because of the heavier weights, though barrel twist can have an impact on accuracy with differing weights. A slower twist like 12 or 14 to 1 should stabilise lighter (faster) projectiles better but may not stabilise heavier ones like a 69gr etc. A faster twist like 1-7 or 1-9 may not be good enough with the lighter pills. For varminting the 204 is still my choice, 4200fps to 4400 fps (Hornady Manufacturing Company :: Ammunition :: Rifle :: Choose by Caliber :: 204 Ruger :: 204 Ruger 24 gr NTX® Superformance) factory so if you are 1" high at 100 you have a peak at 150 of 1.2 inches and zero at 230m and 1 inch drop out at 280. That is a 2"circle hit with a zero hold over out to nearly 300 metres.

In saying that, the ultra lite and ultra fast 204 is probably not suited to game goat sized or bigger. With shot placement it could be done but there is far too much room for error so a bit more weight would be needed for that. So if shooting bunnies, hares and wild cats out to 300 and beyond then my choice is 204. But each to their own.

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200 to 300 is the sweet spot. 0 to 200ish have covered. Target is wild cats. hares. rabbits and peacocks. My 223 s all manage the 0 to 200 but after that it's a stretch. .17 takes the closer stuff. Have 500 acre farm to clean up . I don't want another 223.

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What Blaser have you got, ? , possibly get a .204 barrel for it?

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R93. Would the 223 bolt work or is it a major. Any stock in NZ ?

If you don't want a 223/22-50/204.get a 243 and load 85/87gr.
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load the 90/100gr in your 6.5.

53gr Vmax load in the 223 gives good ballistics and terminal effects, slippery for its weight and pretty explosive.

Had a 204 and it was fun, but that particular rifle was a Savage Mod.12 varminter which weighed about 3 tons. A lighter 204 with the 40gr Vmax might be a good option. You'll want to suppress if noise is an issue though, its marginally louder than 223.

22-250 will obviously launch the same projectiles faster than a 223 for better ballistics at the expense of more powder, more noise, shorter barrel life etc.

Personal preference I guess - I've heard of guys varminting with a 58gr 243 load if you want to get really carried away.

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Originally Posted by Happy

R93. Would the 223 bolt work or is it a major. Any stock in NZ ?

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I googled R93 calibres, the pdf on the Blaser websites doesn't list the .204 for the R93, only the R8.

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