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I have sold my pump and got offered a hatsan for$300 that shot fine at our local shoot last weekend.
I rang the local shot gun god and asked him what he thought and in between guffaws he can get a beretta a300 for
$1300 brand new.
Who has one or knows about them as don't know much about shottys!
I will be using it for hares and rabbits parries and a bit of helicopter culling with a bit of luck.
I can't justify a $3000 rig as I am more a practical shooter that as long as it's reliable I'm happy
Get another pump Andy:)
What can I say, You get what you pay for especially with semi-auto shotties. If it fits and you shoot well with it then buy it providing you may find it poos itself with a bit of hard use, Any shottie can fail but the less it cost the more likely it will. I would be looking for a S/H Benelli M2 for what you want or a rem 1100 of you want a gas operated one. The remis have issues bit they are known and usually easilly fixed. However if you are only going to use it 1-2 time a year then it will do the job.
just my .02
Gun City has them advertised from $700, A300 that is
Tru.i thought I saw 1500.i will go check!
I got it wrong!
It was the outlander he told me $1300 not the a300 .
Seems to have good reviews so any one got one?
Can't go wrong with a new beretta. I have two. An extrema 2 and a older A303. Neither miss a beat.
Seriously look at the Remington VersaMax over the Beretta - the design of the Remington is better, simple, innovative and shoots smoother all round. I shoot Browning now as happy to spend a bit more. If a little price sensitive then maybe consider a Fabarm?
Never see a Beretta semi in the 3 gun competition circles, only Benelli and Remington seen to be able to "handle the jandal" so to speak.
Having said that, I own at present a Remington 870, a Beretta U/O and a Browning U/O. I brought the Browning last. If you want something cheap and built like a tank maybe a Baikel might do
I have a pump because I now shoot in the "heavy metal" class (single stack 45, pump action 12g and iron sight 308 (currently borrowed :( )
I have unfortunately had two remingtons and both had issues. After a good look over each to find out what the issue is I found the source of the problem, it had remington stamped on the side. If you can find a second hand benelli you will never go wrong. Extremely simple and reliable design. I now shoot a Beretta a400 extreme and love it. Anything from beretta new will work a treat. Brownings also work really well.
+1 on the Fabarm. Quite a lot less $$$ than the other Italians but the same quality. Very soft shooting and will handle any load. Anyone who owns one that I've come across raves about them, me included.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunzrrr
I'd avoid the Rem 1100 if you want to shoot steel at any time, they just don't seem to cope with the increased push on the action and bend.
+1 on the Baikal MP-153.
They're cheap and enjoy being treated as such.
Get a shot gun that fits, or at least one wit shims to make it fit. Make and model isn't the be all and end all, most new shotguns are reliable.
Baikal or ATA. I've had the flowery shit and used others and quite frankly I think they are so over priced for what you get it's silly. Each one of those expensive things had some sort of issue. Whether it was you couldn't adjust the stock right, had to use a mag extension cause of their piss poor load capacity (if your machine shooting smaller critters you will need one), noisey, whatever.
Get a ATA 20ga and you're good to go, six rounds standard, reliable and cheap.
I purchased an A300 Outlander Black Synthetic and i have two friends who also have them. My two friends shoots a lot of clays and rarely clean these guns.......they just keep working. The A300 is Beretta's budget shotgun......it cost about 1/2 what the A400 cost or Browning Maxus, or most Benelli guns and it is a clever design in the following ways: It has the exact same updated gas system as Beretta's expensive offerings, but the bolt system of the older 390/391series. The blak synthetic comes with a spacer for L.O.P. and shims for a custom fit at a budget price. To me, it is a hell of a shotgun for the money. The barrel, receiver, are made of the same quality materials of Berettas over priced "premium" 400 series. I have shot both and actually prefer the Outlander . The Magazine tube is not designed to accept an extension, thus the gun is not suitable for 3 gun.....it is a hunting and clays shotgun.
as has been said, fit is king so try and have a play with whatever you get. there was a time i shot 100+ bunnys from a truck every week and I thought I was getting hot shiy with the shotgun but once someone fitted me my avarage rounds per kill dropped.maybe even more important with a semi as the follow up shots can be so fast so natral pointing helps them out even more than the first round imho.
my vote would be to look for a second hand versamax, I bought the "tactical"(damn I hate that word) 22" verson for 3gun I liked it so much I ended up selling my benali bird gun to buy a second full length cammo versamax secondhand
Go with a Benelli if you can find a second hand one that's in good nick.
But I tried out one of these the other day and we'll year near YEAR:thumbsup:
Akkar® Triple Crown
Bloody awesome fun!
I'd get it in 20bore though:)
having owned several semi 12's over the years i am sticking with my fabarm, softest shooting 12 i ever tried
My versamax had been fine I was prepared to spend up to 4000 when I went shopping for one the Remington fitted and pointed the best and was one of the cheaper ones as well
+1 for Fabarm XLS Never any feeding issues unlike my 1187 (which I sold)
Pietta's are also very robust for high output shotty's and you can sometimes find them at a reasonable price around the place.
+1 Fabarm, very nice to shoot without the bullshit price tag.
Owned a Fabarm, yes nice and my choice for the gas guns. Owning a Benelli..... Only regret is: I didn't buy it sooner! There is also a reason why the M2 is the 3 gun shotgun of choice......
How much do you want to spend Andy and do you mind a bit of recoil or would you prefer somthing softer than the pump you sold?
That was over 2.5 years ago.Quote:
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Thanks, never even looked at that.:XD:
Ive had a 2hd hand escort12g(hatsan)for nearly 10yrs now and the couple of faults ive struck have been easily remedied in my shed. a lot of my shooting cobbers have gone hi priced ities and spent more on their pet gunsmith ,than ive drunk in piss!and i love my piss
!gadgetman and GSPfollower will attest to my old girl.
me -find a gun that fits you .that you feel comfotable with ,and even if its second hand -give it a trial.
as for shotgun gods -yep seen a few but most believed they could push shit through a straw with their personalities! a couple i respect -they advise but dont badger!
The horse has bolted.
I have a second hand Remington Versamax Tactical, already thrown 350 rounds of all sorts or rounds through in the short time I have owned it and I mean only a few months. Not a single flaw it will shoot what ever I put in it and will shoot as fast as your finger can pull the trigger
I to eventually will be looking at a semi auto. I was looking at a franchi affinity. Anyone have any experience with them? Benneli inertia driven.