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Can someone pls help me understand the Savage lineup.
They seem to use model numbers (10, 11, 12, 16) and series names (trophy hunter, international, weather warrior) interchangeably...
Are all model 16's weather warrior i.e. stainless ?
Which models are higher spec ?
Yes the 16's are all short action weather warriors and the 116's are all long action.
Yes, they can be a little confusing, and there seem to be a few exceptions to any rule, but in general:
Model 10's are approximately their Law Enforcement/Tactical range, Almost always with a heavy barrel, no wooden stocks in sight.
Model 11 is their general 'Hunter' range. Sporter barrels, varied setups and configurations, but designed with a range of hunting uses in mind.
Model 12 are their Target/Varmint rifles. Barrels you could use as an axle, etc. Very much truck or range guns. Not practical for carting anywhere on your back. Accurate though!
Model 14 is the Classic series. Small line-up with only two variants. Walnut stock with either a stainless or blued tube.They used to have a few varied stock styles (monte carlo etc) in this range, but those seem to have been dropped in favour of just the straight-combed american style.
Model 16 is, as you said, the Weather Warrior. Synthetic stainless, some variants with the accustock, some without.
They also have the Model 25 within their centrefire range, which is a lighter-weight varminter setup, based off their rimfire action.
Long and Short action is stated in the model number - e.g. 14 is short action, 114 is the long action. 10/110 etc.
The trophy hunter and international trophy hunter are the names given to their scoped packages, trophy hunter being U.S. only and international being.. well ;) About the only difference I can see at a glance is that the U.S. trophy hunter seems to come with a nikon scope, and the international with a weaver. Neither of these seem to come with the accustock, which is a great pity.
In terms of models with higher specs; it really just comes down to which features you prefer, as they don't particularly have a 'premium' line. The price goes up on some of their models with HS precision stocks or extra manufacturing work like fluted bits, but there's generally some middle ground to find what you like without paying the world.
The Axis and Stevens rifles are essentially their budget ranges and not a true indicator of what Savage are capable of IMO.
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Hopefully I haven't missed anything or got anything too wrong.. :P
Tx striker :thumbsup:
Yup that pretty much covers it, though with older guns I think everything with that action was called Model 10/110, before they got into 12, 14 etc for specific models. So sometimes you will hear about the 10/110 meaning the action in that generic sense, like you do with the Rem 700.
You can also tell a bit from some of the letter codes used after the number if you're a geek like me - F is synthetic (FC for accustock), B is laminate, L is lefty. V is varmint (heavy barrel), SS is stainless. So 16FCSS tells you its short action synthetic accustock stainless even if you didn't know the 16 is the weather warrior.
WRT to the cheap ones, the Stevens still uses the 10/110 action but with a cheaper stock and without the nice accutrigger etc - they can be a good starting point for custom builds if you plan to replace the stock and trigger anyway, as its a cheap way of getting a good action. The Axis is a totally different budget action though, I haven't used one but they have a reputation for not being very nice.
Back on the eighties they were all 110 for short or long action.
The C refers to drop box (clip) magazine, H is hinged floor plate. T for thumb hole.