modern air rifles

iv had a few air rifles as a kid and they were ok, but what are the modern ones like, or the... above average ones.
what do you look for or keep away from, which ones have a good name, are there any kinds of accuracy guarantees?

the pcp ones don't interest me.

I just want something to fool around with, yet have good accuracy.

I see some with muzzle brakes, they cant be serious?
also some called nitro gas...
calibre doesn't worry me as long as pellets are easy to get.

so what do you know?

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I know that my Gamo isn't that great..

I have a Crosman springer (made in China) that has been very good and has had many thousands of rounds through it. Keen to get my hands on a nitro piston one from here soon.

Str8Shooters

I had a stoeger x20 and it was bloody good, the x50s even better but the price jumps up a lot. Beats this gamo hands down

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I had a stoeger x20 and it was bloody good, the x50s even better but the price jumps up a lot. Beats this gamo hands down

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they look popular on trade me, as in bids not that there seems to be a lot.
gadgetman, that one looks pretty nice too. nitro piston seems like the new thing.
iv got one now that hasn't had much use but the seals seem to had let go. I figured its not worth muching around with and the moden edge would be nice, maybe a scope too.

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they look popular on trade me, as in bids not that there seems to be a lot.
gadgetman, that one looks pretty nice too. nitro piston seems like the new thing.
iv got one now that hasn't had much use but the seals seem to had let go. I figured its not worth muching around with and the moden edge would be nice, maybe a scope too.

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The odd drop of oil in the hole seems to help them seal better. Causes a little dieseling for a while but works. Other than that normally have to strip them down and replace the seal. I'm going Nitro for the next one.

I thought it was a seal inside it, it cocks ok but no pressure.
do you think the gas nitro is higher maintance. do they have gas cylinders? (the cylinder question might be dumb but they have gas in the name, then they say easier cocking)

You should give Ron from youngs airguns a call. Really good bloke to deal with.

Read some air rifle forums, Last time I read a british one they seemed to take them pretty serious and iirc stoeger, gamo and so on were regarded as shit, they reckoned whirelich or something and other brands I have never in a H&F catalog are better

yeah, im going to look at some you tube reviews etc.
theres a target one on trade me for $4000. that's way too much, something a bit above average which is accurate.

Ive just bought one of the Ruger Blackhawks for a few feline issues we have...Should be here tomorrow morning. Havent used an Air rifle for a few years so should be fun. The Rugers get good reviews on the web? I'll let you know how I get on!

I have one of these, very happy with it

http://www.air-arms.co.uk/products/o...o-sport-detail

this explains coil spring vs gas strut if anyone else is interested.

American Airgunner Round Table - Gas Pistons - YouTube

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Ive just bought one of the Ruger Blackhawks for a few feline issues we have...Should be here tomorrow morning. Havent used an Air rifle for a few years so should be fun. The Rugers get good reviews on the web? I'll let you know how I get on!

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Are you going to shoot domestic cats?

I used to have a crossman extreme g1. I shot almost ninety possums with it over eighteen months, most one shot kills. It was very good, I spent a lot of time sighting it in and plinking as well and hunted with gamo rockets

Sent from my work bench

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I have one of these, very happy with it

Spring-Powered Rifles : PRO SPORT

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is it just as easy to cock as a break barrel?
was it from youngs? youngs seem to have better quality guns, its just his links on his site doesn't work.

It has a linkage so I would say it is much easier to cock that any break barrel I have tried of similar power.

Yea,from youngs-I looked at importing it myself but by the time he cut his price a little it was not worth the drama-and having NZ backup seemed worth the small difference in price.

I mostly shoot targets with it at home to practice shooting fundamentals on the cheep but it has smoked a few possums and a mouse that was in my yard at the wrong time.

Wild...

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It has a linkage so I would say it is much easier to cock that any break barrel I have tried of similar power.

Yea,from youngs-I looked at importing it myself but by the time he cut his price a little it was not worth the drama-and having NZ backup seemed worth the small difference in price.

I mostly shoot targets with it at home to practice shooting fundamentals on the cheep but it has smoked a few possums and a mouse that was in my yard at the wrong time.

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sounds good. im the same mostly just some targets from my house, maybe the odd critter that stops by.

Airguns are like most firearms - they can be tweeked and accurised quite a bit. Take a second hand gamo CFX .22 for $400. Get it serviced at youngs, also get a GRT drop in trigger for $40 and you'll have an underlever that shoots almost as good as a pcp. You can even replace the main spring with a gas piston.

Best break barrel out of the box is the Cometa Fenix - you can get em around $400 second hand, $600 new. They make 1/2" groups at 25y. Thats the benchmark for airguns. To make a single hole you need to A - be good, and B - have a $3000+ Steyr LG100 or an Airarms Ev2.

My favorite airgun of all time was a Diana Airking .22. The one and only airgun I ever managed to shoot a 5 shot sub MOA group with. Heavy and it killed scopes. BTW dont go putting regular scopes on these things. Airguns need brands of optics like "Leapers, Hawke, Falcon, Meuler".

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so what do you know?

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+1 for the Cometa, very accurate straight out of the box and there's some good deals about. $599 with scope from Youngs at the moment.

http://www.youngsairgun.co.nz/catalogue/airguns&acc.pdf

Weihrauch are fantastic for target shooting.

If you're in Auckland there's the Howick Air Rifle Club which shoots indoor every 2nd Thursday night from 7pm, walk ins are welcome. There's an outdoor club North Harbour AirGun club who shoot in Greenhithe every 2nd Sunday.

Wellington wise there's Ngiao club who shoot regularly, and coming up later this year NZ are hosting the World Field Target CHamps - those knockdown targets where you hit the centre paddle and the target falls down. Quite challenging to do with an air rifle, in the wind, uphill through a bush at distance.

nzairgun.com - Index
for the NZ forum. You might even snag a bargain buying one 2nd hand that has already been tuned, etc.

kscott, what model is that? I don't see any for that exact price.

I just got my old one out, its a hasen 55. and for some strange reason it seems to be working now. before it would good pfft, and the pellet wouldn't move. it seemed ok so put a pellet in and it fired it.
why would it do that, I figured if a seal was buggered that was it.

Ruger arrived today...what I can say is FUCKEN LOUD!!

Cometas are gd, its like anything your better off buying quality 2nd hand than new s*%t. Air arms, Diana, HW early BSA's or webleys etc. The gas pistion (think car boot strut instead of spring) HW 90?s are very cool

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... break barrel ...make 1/2" groups at 25y. Thats the benchmark for airguns. To make a single hole you need to A - be good, and B - have a $3000+ Steyr LG100 or an Airarms Ev2....

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you mean like this?

http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/m...psc28fb005.jpg

Daystate 40ft-lb Air Wolf sending a ~19gr .22 pellet at over 900fps. Punches a good 30mm into macro. Total death to maggies under 60yds, best so far 98yds. You can see why they require a firearms licence for these

That's pretty much as good as I've ever seen man, well done.

The best pellets by far for a medium powered airgun (before you go lookin' for eugins) I found were the H&N barracudas. Same as the X-field. Up close I used to prefer the jsb exacts.

I always did think these needed a FAL but lots of others were (still are) buttsore over the FAL move. I wonder what the move did for 10/22 sales lol

If you want a quality spring powered air rifle you cant go wrong with a Weihrauch (pronounced vi-A-rak) accurate and will last you a lifetime. Airarms and BSA are another couple of good makes.

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That's pretty much as good as I've ever seen man, well done.

The best pellets by far for a medium powered airgun (before you go lookin' for eugins) I found were the H&N barracudas. ..

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By reputation, that is so and that's why I tried them first but they didn't shoot near as well in mine.
Bonus is the Cometas (which are repackaged JSBs) are far cheaper :thumbsup:

Ive got a Gamo big cat , 18th birthday impulse buy, no research on it . I just saved money then pointed and choose that one :yuush: ... After getting fed up with the long pull and unpredictability of the gamo trigger I dropped a grt-4g trigger in it .And now i can shoot golf balls off the fence about 30 metres away.I think the groups are just under an inch using h&n Field target trophy pellets 8.64gr and the barracudas:thumbsup:. still need to upgrade the scope one day :ORLY:

I have a weihrauch 97k it's a really well made and super accurate.

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If you want a quality spring powered air rifle you cant go wrong with a Weihrauch (pronounced vi-A-rak) accurate and will last you a lifetime. Airarms and BSA are another couple of good makes.

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That's how I have always pronounced it and out of habit will continue to say it like that but according to a tame German at work it is "Weih is pronounced Vay and the rauch is rohwsh, Vayrohwsh".
I have an HW80 which was just about the industry standard in its time , alongside maybe one or 2 of the Diana models. The Weihrauch Rekord trigger is still one of the best.
I also have a Theoben Rapid 7 Pre-charged which shoots groups similar to the Daystate posting. I hardly use my HW80 now but it did deal with a few rabbits in its time.

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kscott, what model is that? I don't see any for that exact price.

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"COMETA 400 Sporter 3.2 kg in weight, Auto safety catch. Lite optic sights ( 800 fps) ST & S .22 $450.00.
COMBO’S If you decide to purchase a Cometa 400 with 3-9 X 40 AO scope $549.00 or Fusion,with 3-9 X 40 AO scope $599.00"

Like any firearm, you can easily spend more to get a better make/model.

If you can spare the time, make a visit to Youngs. They're on Dominion Rd, on the left hand side as you're driving away from the city. Parking outside.

Youngs also sponsor local club shooting with prizes, etc and have v good after sales service. A+

Hi guys, ive got a 'Benjamin Trail NP' air rifle, .22 heavy as fuck, great shooter but has a trigger with more creep than your average paedophile......

might get a new 'drop in' trigger for it, or do a bit of the old DIY after watching some vids on you tube!!!!!!!!

My cometa likes the jsb exacts as we'll but I can't shoot it to get groups that tight at that range. 6x47 is that the fennix or the fusion your shooting?

As per the picture, they're Cometa "Exact Jumbo Heavy" pellets. It says "Carefully selected by JSB"
Got 'em from Young's in Akl. Lot cheaper than the Barracudas too. It seems air rifles can be finicky like .22 rimfire mags.
Don't reply on my results when buying for yours.

Your Cometa PS- is it a break barrel or PCP? If the former, there's no chance of it matching my Air Wolf