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    Muzzle Brake Testing

    Interesting article series with a shout out to @Kiwi Greg...

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    Thats the one, buggered if I know where the link went from my post...

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    Where is the link to the results?
    "Hunting and fishing" fucking over licenced firearms owners since ages ago.

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    Looks like he is still munching through the data so no nice tables yet of performance. All Yankee stuff but some brands are recognisable.
    Muzzle Brakes: Field Test Overview & Line-Up | PrecisionRifleBlog.com
    You probably already got to this link thru the first link......

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    It will be very interesting to see the results, unfortunately it isn't as independent & unbiased as it could have been.........

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    I reckon the guy did a very good explanation of how recoil works and how it is "properly" measured with his equipment .

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Looks like he is still munching through the data so no nice tables yet of performance. All Yankee stuff but some brands are recognisable.
    Muzzle Brakes: Field Test Overview & Line-Up | PrecisionRifleBlog.com
    You probably already got to this link thru the first link......
    Interesting reading the comments at the end of that blog. A couple of commenters mentioned terminator, but reading the replies it seems that brake was excluded at the specific request of American Precision Arms (APA) who make the fat bastard brake. He kind of dances around the subject, but sounds like Terminator may not be on the APA christmas card list....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaimai Views View Post
    Interesting reading the comments at the end of that blog. A couple of commenters mentioned terminator, but reading the replies it seems that brake was excluded at the specific request of American Precision Arms (APA) who make the fat bastard brake. He kind of dances around the subject, but sounds like Terminator may not be on the APA christmas card list....
    Cal was concerned about how much this line of tests/comparisons was going to cost him.

    APA offered to buy his test rig when he was finished with it & help him with the testing as long as another brake manufactures products weren't included in the tests because they were "eerily similar to their design"

    Gotta love "independent testing"

    That's life in the big city

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    It would be funny if you could get hold of their brake, test it against yours, and if the result are in your favour posting a video on the web.

    Would love to see their green face then

    Of course they would argue that the test is flawed because not independently done... You know the music :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friwi View Post
    It would be funny if you could get hold of their brake, test it against yours, and if the result are in your favour posting a video on the web.

    Would love to see their green face then

    Of course they would argue that the test is flawed because not independently done... You know the music :-)
    As previously mentioned I have a large number of muzzle brakes for testing, both factory & after market

    During testing I have fired more than 1000 rounds thus far, over half being 338 Lapua Magnum,

    I have a reasonable idea how well a brake will perform by looking at it.

    Some of the brakes "talked up" on the net etc are very average which is prossibly what Cal was referring to when he said there were some surprising results.

    The results will be very interesting, including the noise & point of aim comparisons.

    It depends how he scores the brakes the results could be somewhat skewed ?

    Like in the scope comparison where if it wasn't FFP it got hammered in one of the tests, severely hurting its overall test score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg View Post
    Like in the scope comparison where if it wasn't FFP it got hammered in one of the tests, severely hurting its overall test score.
    checks out.

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    I think the guy mentioned something about patents pending in the comments section. I guess that is why APA got a bit dark on it....... eerily similar is one way of describing it. Their attorney might see it differently though, perhaps? I would suspect that is why the blog owner decided to stay out any conflict.

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    Well if there is a patent pending, greg you 'd better check this out( I guess you would already have done so?)

    By the way ,the guy makes an accurate description of the components he uses, but what about the software program he wrote?
    Is there a way of getting it ? Or are there some brainy gigs on the forum to understand and write such program?

    It would be great to have such equipment here in NZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaimai Views View Post
    I think the guy mentioned something about patents pending in the comments section. I guess that is why APA got a bit dark on it....... eerily similar is one way of describing it. Their attorney might see it differently though, perhaps? I would suspect that is why the blog owner decided to stay out any conflict.
    Smoke screen.

    Pretty hard to patent something that has been in the public arena for years I would imagine ?

    I take it as quite a complement to be honest.

    These comparisons will open many eyes, it appears that very few people have publicly compared muzzle brakes in the past.

 

 

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