New build 30/284 Remington

Here is my first custom/wildcat build .Its a 30/284 on a short action sps with a Duley inspired 3.150 mag extension , My mate Phil did the re barrel,chamber and magazine extension work and threaded the barrel for one of his suppressors.The barrel is a take of from a target rifle and shortend to 28 inches and re profiled . All that needs doing now is some load work and then i am away . I have to thank Nic for selling me the reamer and dies and Cam for some info on loads . I am planning to run 155 amax's or 150 nosler ballistic tips . On with some pic's

Job done, scope fitted
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Threads being cut
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neat Choice of cartridge for NZ!
back home i have a 308 barrel for my 7-08 montana and am seriously thinking of having it reamed for the 30-284 !
hope you follow up some threads or info on everything mate-- cheers

Hopefully , time permitting ,I'll be able to get some range time this weekend, I'll post up how it goes and what load we find works

Is the cam @veitnamcam ?

What is the duley mag extension as that's a fair bit short action mag.

Yes Gibo , Stocky , its what what Greg Duley did with the fat max build in an NZ HUNTER article .He made the mag length 3.150 inches long by cutting up a wyatt long action mag . We didn't quite do it that way but Phil being the clever bugger he is achieved the same same result using the bits that we had .

What are the ballistics on a 30/284? Same as the 06’?

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What are the ballistics on a 30/284? Same as the 06’?

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Similar.

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why not run a heavier bullet, you have the case capacity and barrel length to push something a bit heavier at reasonable speed and get the benefit of a better BC?

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why not run a heavier bullet, you have the case capacity and barrel length to push something a bit heavier at reasonable speed and get the benefit of a better BC?

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Being an ex target barrel it probably doesn't have the twist to shoot much over a 155

125 ballistic tips at 3500fps [emoji106]
Actually they didnt shoot that well going that fast out of my 10 twist but may do out of a slower twist.

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What sort of velocity are you expecting with the 150's? They should be fair moving out of a 28 inch barrel.

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Yes Gibo , Stocky , its what what Greg Duley did with the fat max build in an NZ HUNTER article .He made the mag length 3.150 inches long by cutting up a wyatt long action mag . We didn't quite do it that way but Phil being the clever bugger he is achieved the same same result using the bits that we had .

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I guess it would just be like a more aggressive version of the wyatts? Just interested as I have a project in mind that I was going to use the 3B- Bainey mag at 3.11 but every little bit of length counts

Nick-d ,I am hoping to get somewhere over 3000 fps ,just how far over that will only be found out once we do the load work and find out what it does and what it likes. Being an ex target rifle its been shooting 155's but i am hoping i can go a bit heaver to 165's . I think these will be heavy enough for anything i am likely to use it on. The barrel is a 1/13 twist . Stocky , All the bits we used where from the the original components of the standard of the rifle which was a 7mm-08 , Phil milled out the receiver as you would to fit an extension then just tweaked the stock parts to work. We where planning this part of the build for a while as the rifle in its original state 7mm-08 could not fit 162 eldm's in the factory mag ,with them being seated to where they shot best .

I have a .308 win target barrel ex Din Collins, rechambered to .300 win mag. It shoots 180s just fine.

You may be surprised. Mine is 1:10 twist


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I have a .308 win target barrel ex Din Collins, rechambered to .300 win mag. It shoots 180s just fine.

You may be surprised. Mine is 1:10 twist


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Massive difference between 10 & 13 twist

Well i been to the range, and i got a bit of a surprise. The first thing i found was i achieved my 3000 fps goal and then some. From looking at all the forums i could find on the subject about powders and what speeds to look for the general consensus was to use 30-06 data as they are very similar. So i went to the hornady book which suggested reloader 17 was the quickest with 61 grains being the max load for 3000fps in a 30-06. So with that in mind we started at 55 grains and got 3170 fps but the groups was not that flash 1.148 so moving up in half grain lots things got moving till we got to 57.5 and 3220fps and a 0.562 group to say i was rapt was an understatement . I still had few more groups to shoot and try, so seeing no signs of pressure we carried on but the groups started to open up till we got to 59 and i got two to .4 but then i threw the last one to 1.4 and that was at 3303 fps . So with that i mind i have decided to load to 57.5 grains 3220 fps as it shoots at a half MOA and thats more than enough to get me out to 700 which is the the limit i have set myself. The other plus was Phil threaded my rifle to fit one of his suppressors and i tried a couple of groups with and it made the rifle a pussy to shoot . Mind you even without it ,it is still a very easy rifle to shoot. As you can tell i really rapt with my new cannon, and i think even with a 18 ich barrel and a can and the right twist barrel to handle a wider range of 30cal bullets this would make a really good super bushpig . I might have to up grade the Mark 4 next and get some new glass to see how far i can go with this one.

Sounds like a great result.
28" barrel with a suppressor must be a bit of a handful though? Not something you'd be carrying around stalking with I imagine.

Cool. the 284 is a joy to shoot, no need for suppressors or brakes in terms of recoil even in light weight short bbl set ups.

Yeah she is a bit much with the can on ,but its an option. I would most like put in my pack and take it out for long shots .I certainly wont be worrying about in the bush . Plus if it starts to piss me off too much i can always shorten the barrel.;)

Good to see a custom build that comes to a happy ending :thumbsup:

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Good to see a custom build that comes to a happy ending :thumbsup:

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+1

1 in 10" is unusually fast for an NRA barrel ,especially if it's a Din vintage one. Most as KG says average about 13" with 12 being as fast as they tended to go.

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1 in 10" is unusually fast for an NRA barrel ,especially if it's a Din vintage one. Most as KG says average about 13" with 12 being as fast as they tended to go.

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It might be 1:12, I could be confusing it with some of my other .30 cal tubes. I will check. However the point I was trying to make is, that with the extra velocity from the larger case you maybe able to stabilise some heavier 180 gn pills, and it is worth loading up a few flat base ones to test it out.

I tried some 168 eldm's and it was not best . I only got a 2 inch group. I have been more focused on getting 155's sorted as i think they will more than enough for most things. This build has been a big leaning curve and if i was to do it again i would look at a 1/10 barrel and shorten the barrel to 18 and can it and have a real bush pig