Dan just got married so probably thinking of the other thing besides guns!
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Dan just got married so probably thinking of the other thing besides guns!
I got one of the new Hardys supplied with one of SSR's tubes in 6.5/06, had 20 rounds through it and its going good.
Due for more rounds tomorrow, will post if any issues develop.
Very much doubt Dan tests his suppressors on a 16inch Magnum Barrel. GW's advice will be based on what is safe for a Magnum GW's suppressor. As for having a barrel under 22inch on a 7mm Mag, why waste powder? A 280, with a 22inch barrel and the lighter and shorter GW's suppressor would fit the bill out to 700y and with much less blow, but still plenty of go.
A mate has one on a 7 rem mag thompson centre cut down to 16 inch and goes good as with better than moa out to 500 . he just did it because he could and he has got three other magnums cut down and suppressed as well.they certainly make a nice balanced easy to carry rifle!
I heard Dan was on his honeymoon, which may be why he hasnt responded to various emails.
Na - its just par for the course with him
Hi Andy, what make of suppressor does your mate have on his Magnums? Also, what materials is it made of, e.g. stainless steel? Thats impressive for a suppressor to handle that sort of abuse. It's always good to know what different suppressors can handle. How many rounds through the 16 inch 7mm Rem Mag barrel so far?
I taked to Dan today, he has a sick family member so isn't working at the moment, and might not be for a little while. I got my rifle back ....... they havn't cut it to the requested lenght........back it goe
What makes you doubt that? After the problems he's had in the past I thought he'd be keen to give them a thorough testing !Quote:
Very much doubt Dan tests his suppressors on a 16inch Magnum Barrel.
So I've just finished packing my rifle up to go to Hardy tomorrow. Getting the .308 cut down to 18 inches so OAL should be roughly what it is now. Hopefully doesn't take too long.
Mine turned up today, for the second time...... Looks well made. I have yet to shoot it.
The new quick on of design for some will be handy only time will tell if its any better.
There's a new QD feature?? Details, photos. That's cool.
Saw that at the Sika Show. Was a bayonet type system.
Anyone tried or got one of the new gen4 supressors??weight and length looks pretty good ,price is up there though
I see h&f are selling them on some of there tikkas too
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What other flavour would ya recommend spanners , just looking at all options
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The new Gen4 has had some good reviews in Europe and England and there are a lot more sold over there than in NZ .
Only because they are way over engineered. I have heard the new standard Gen 4 cans were proofed to over magnum pressures in a British proof house. What that means I don't know. I haven't heard of any new ones blowing up though.
I have an A-tec, if you don't mind muzzle forward they are bloody amazing. Much better than my old Gunworks for noise reduction.
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Standard cal.
- 80mm muzzle forward
- 120mm over barrel
- 44.5mm outside diameter
- 290 grams
Is this blow up issue because the barrel is off centre with the suppressor? Some guys treat their suppressors like they are made out of railway iron.
ive heard form many people that hardys cans are "hardy hand grenades" dont no what it is about them but you seem to hear of a lot more hardy blow ups/bulges etc then any other manufacturer.
Soem people swear by them though
Nope, not saying that at all.
Myself and anyone that I know that owns them haven't had any issues, which the same cant be said for Hardys.
Some have had multiple failures and that combined with piss poor regard for safety and follow up service/issue rectifying give me this opinion.
You may remember a while ago I backup hardy up over failures and issues. My stance changed when I entered the same boat.
How many on this forum have had a gun works fail and how many have had a Hardy?
What are the dpt suppressors like? Thinking of getting one for a 223. Our should I just get a gunworks..
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My DPT one is good. I think he prices his basic cans realistically for what they are. I reckon a lot of NZ cans are way overpriced for what they are.
mmmmm might be swinging a different direction i think
every ones cans go at some stage there would have been a fair few of each.
Gun works run old school KISS cans not the best but keep chugging away with good rep
Dan runs new technology cans pushing the boundrys to be the best. lightest shortest forward with good reduction in noise as well so are hard well in my opinion impossible to go past.
Only heard of his older ones going, new ones are very well made an engineered
I would have thaught DPT would have taken lightest, and if you remove a baffle or so it becomes less than 80mm forward
Ill let you know when it turns up
I have a 4 baffle DPT and when fitted, I dont even notice any change in weight, balance or even MPI. Not sure on its noise reduction as I still wear hearing protection but it doesnt sound any different to others I have or used. It is lighter than advertised by a smidge. I highly rate them for a bolt gun.
But removing it decreases performance it can't not like the atec etc everything has compromise, it's only my opinion but hardy covers them all well to suit all range of people and tested to with stand more then rated for so light for hunting and solid for range work with out adding or removing baffles less things for average goe to play with an go wrong with same poi not having to resite for more or less baffles.
Have talked to Dan about his testing here's what he said quoting testing. . ..
"Our Db testing for our standard size can is done on a Remington 308.
Destructive testing for standard suppressor is done on a 16” barrelled 300 wsm – 100 rounds with no signs of stretching of deformation. We get the ammo loaded by the guys at dead eye dicks so they can attest to the strength of the suppressors.
Proof testing in the UK for standard 308 suppressor is done with a 300 win mag with 25% over max loads.
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The London proof master is ex EME Army Armourer same as our crew so it’s really cool talking to him about how he proofs our gear.
They don’t even bother trying to abuse the magnum suppressors"
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This is a bread winner right there. . . . .
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+1 I started experimenting in the late 80's on centerfire supps. Had all manner of sizes, configurations and weights. Had all manner of problems as well. Glad I never tried marketing them back then. The first effective one, for full load centerfires I seen, was a Tiffen one. It was a simple but effective design. Cooper was the only commercial/military one at the time, that come out with a can for the AW, it was only used with subsonic 7.62.
It has steamrolled from there over the last few years. Trying to meet the demands of lighter and quieter suppressors you are surely going to have problems.
I reckon what is available in NZ are all reasonably similar apart from a bit of weight. You can only work with materials and machinery that are available and I personally think simple is best.
Good on kiwis trying to improve on their product by experimenting. But at the end of the day a centerfire supp is never going to get any quieter than say a .22 mag so I dont see the point of getting one that is slightly quieter than the other. Reliability, safety and weight and cost are all that really interest me.
If you are paying some of the prices I have seen on some supps ($700-$800) you are been had, IMO.