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    new USA export rules ?

    Finally the US has gotten around to changing the export rules , just what exactly that will mean is anyone's guess ? . Pity they are changing them now that we are under a new regime .


    Good News for Gunsmiths — Changes to ITAR Regulations

    Federal Trump ITAT EAR commerce Dept. State gun firearms export regulation change

    On January 23, 2020, the Trump administration published new rules that will significantly help the U.S. firearms industry and American gunsmiths. The new regulations officially take effect on March 9, 2020.

    The rule changes modify export control of American firearms, as well as related parts, components, and accessories. Under the new Federal rules, export of common firearms and parts will now be controlled by the Department of Commerce, NOT by the Department of State under its International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). Those draconian ITAR provisions had adversely affected small parts manufacturers and gunsmiths through hefty fees and burdensome paperwork even if they did not actually ship guns overseas.

    Gun author Ryan Cleckner explains: “Up until this change, the Department of State regulated exports of most firearms and their related parts, ammo, and information through [ITAR] which contain a list of covered firearm types called the United States Munitions List (USML). The USML includes all rifles, handguns, and short-barreled shotguns. The Department of Commerce, on the other hand, has the Export Administration Regulations (EAR) which regulates the export of all firearm types on a list, called the Commerce Control List (CCL), including regular shotguns (those with a barrel length of at least 18″) and their related parts, ammo, and information.”

    Cleckner summarizes the key regulatory changes in a 1/20/2020 Gun University Article:

    1. Manufacturers will no longer have to pay a $2,250 annual registration fee.
    2. No long approval process [for exports].
    3. No Congressional approval needed for deals over $1 million.
    4. Easier sharing of technical information for designs/R&D.

    Gun University Ryan Cleckner Federal Trump ITAT EAR commerce Dept. State gun firearms export regulation change

    We caution our readers that these gun export regulatory changes do NOT alter domestic gun control laws in America. And gun exports are still subject to government oversight. However, Cleckner explains: “Instead of dealing with the ITAR rules and State Department licensing, the firearms industry will be able to use the more efficient export system through the Department of Commerce for most firearms. Certain firearms, like machine guns, will still stay under State Department control (under ITAR).”

    According to the NRA-ILA: “No more will small, non-exporting businesses — including gunsmiths — be caught up in an expansive regulatory scheme for manufacturers of ‘munitions’ and their parts that requires a $2,250 annual registration fee with U.S. State Department. Americans will again be free to publish most technical information about firearms and ammunition — including on the publicly-accessible Internet — without fear of accidentally running afoul of State Department restrictions that could land them in federal prison.”

    The new regulations will simplify overseas travel by hunters and competition shooters. Americans temporarily traveling overseas with their own guns and ammunition won’t have to register them in a government database or fill out commercial exporting forms.

    Federal Trump ITAT EAR commerce Dept. State gun firearms export regulation change

    Meanwhile, commercial exporters of non-military grade firearms and ammunition will have fewer fees to pay and will benefit from a more flexible, business-oriented regulatory environment. But note, actual exports of firearms and ammunition will still require authorization/licensing by the federal government. End-users of the guns in the countries of destination will also remain subject to U.S. monitoring.

    The NRA-ILA observes: “This latest action is just one more example of how President Trump continues to move forward with his positive agenda to protect the right to keep and bear arms and the businesses that comprise America’s firearms industry. American manufacturing, as well as lawful firearm ownership at home and abroad, stand to make big gains under the president’s export reform initiative.


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    Good news. Now the US just needs to fix their ridiculous overseas shipping fees.
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    Good news. Now NZ just needs to fix our ridiculous Customs rules.

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    If we could have trump starting a law suit against nz post for not delivering from customs to the door ,firearms parts legally imported for which the transport fee has fully been paid from the door of supplier to our own door. ( I know I m dreaming).And it is also a restriction of trade.
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    Yes, all good but it`s still Hughley expensive to import a barrel and that's why I`m making a new barrel for my Hawken with my new system, right hand twist, smoother bore. If I shoot good groups with my home made barrels, "He`s putting money where his mouth is". sort of thing. It`s 1-48" 28" long and now cutting it octagonal,

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    I thought the changes were to include a lifting of the US $100 export rule?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I thought the changes were to include a lifting of the US $100 export rule?
    This is probably one of the more important thing that affects normal folks like us. I have been wanting a couple of barrels for years. In fact. I have pretty much given up on these projects!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I thought the changes were to include a lifting of the US $100 export rule?
    A man can only dream,

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    I believe the $100 limit is gone but I will research further when I have time.

    It will take a while for these changes to kick in but the rule appears to be finalized so it's happening.
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    9th of march 2020.

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    Get in contact with brownells. Mate they will be all over this . Their shipping is fast and reasonably priced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanfish View Post
    Get in contact with brownells. Mate they will be all over this . Their shipping is fast and reasonably priced.
    Most of what I have bought off Sinclairs/Brownells over the years was never subject to the export permit and/or the US$100 limit so no change there for me.

    My projectile purchases required a permit but the current exchange rate killed those purchases off to a large extent.

    @wanneroo I can feel a few Boyds stock orders coming up

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Most of what I have bought off Sinclairs/Brownells over the years was never subject to the export permit and/or the US$100 limit so no change there for me.

    My projectile purchases required a permit but the current exchange rate killed those purchases off to a large extent.

    @wanneroo I can feel a few Boyds stock orders coming up
    And all the other stock options....
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    Yep ,firms like Boyds might see a significant rise in their export sales.

    As for Brownells, they have set up international distributors in their major export countries already and do not let basic customers deal directly with them in the USA anymore, which sucks a lot since the distributor can be taking large cuts and most of the time has never anything in stock. I know that the one in France sucks big time. We are still lucky that we can order straight from brownells here in nz.
    The other one to look for would be Midway USA , they have shit load of stuff on their website and they might be inclined to open their doors to the international markets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friwi View Post
    Yep ,firms like Boyds might see a significant rise in their export sales.

    As for Brownells, they have set up international distributors in their major export countries already and do not let basic customers deal directly with them in the USA anymore, which sucks a lot since the distributor can be taking large cuts and most of the time has never anything in stock. I know that the one in France sucks big time. We are still lucky that we can order straight from brownells here in nz.
    The other one to look for would be Midway USA , they have shit load of stuff on their website and they might be inclined to open their doors to the international markets.
    Agreed re Brownells. The branch set up in Oz has a lot of criticism, certainly the fact that they cannot buy direct from USA. The prices are also appear more expensive than direct from USA and their stock holding is not comprehensive. Thought the Oz outlet would be a good alternative but gave up on that very quickly.

    Midway have always sold internationally but not to peasants like us only to the big gun shops with accounts with them.

 

 

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