Thread: not enough elevation in scope

Originally Posted by sdogg73

20 moa rail and any weaver style ring

This is your best option


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Originally Posted by quentin

Looks correct in that regard. If you rotate it, the elevation knob will be on the left hand side, or rotating it the other way will have the windage under the scope.

I see that now I zoomed right in
It looked like a flat surface on my monitor

been in his situation in the past with a scope . . nice scope just not enough elevation, eventually it was sold for a 30mm tube with enough elevation.
i like the idea of when the scope is zeroed your right in the middle or very close to the optical centre of the reticles travel . . takes a wee bit of fcking around but worth it to me.
i use Burris Z rings mostly with the oval plastic inserts . . you can correct windage as well as elevation with extra inserts available in different amounts of Cant.
Theyre not cheap but its done properly, using bits of tin cans and bending your scope ( which does work ) seems not such a good idea to a optical device.
good luck . . R

Originally Posted by norsk

You could hammer a felling wedge in under the Barrel,jack that Barrel up a bit.
Just use a polymer one not a steel wedge so you don't scratch the bluing.

No that would make it worse, the barrel needs to go down, maybe clamp it down into the stock and put some duct tape or a zip tie around it.

Originally Posted by Skirch

No that would make it worse, the barrel needs to go down, maybe clamp it down into the stock and put some duct tape or a zip tie around it.

Nope, barrel got to go up or scope down.

It’s 100mm low at 100m, scope needs to come down to meet POI.

But agree, not a great option! I assume it’s a piss take!


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Whn i buy any new scope i dial it to the bottom of elevation,dial and count to the top of elevation.Dial back down half yr count.Some scopes have more or less than what specs say.

Its a righty scope on a lefty rifle

Originally Posted by Skirch

No that would make it worse, the barrel needs to go down, maybe clamp it down into the stock and put some duct tape or a zip tie around it.

Hoseclip!

I use steel or brass spacers cut to shape under the base to raise it up enough. Always works l

Howa/weatherby vanguard use remington 700 action profile on top, so a remington 20moa base should be the right profile, though the holes may need re-drilled (in the base) as I'm not sure they're the same spacing between rifles. Or, get a gunsmith who remembers his high school level trigonometry to machine the front and rear bases you currently have to get you however much elevation you're missing.

Alternatively, the burris Z rings with the inserts as someone suggested already, you can increase your elevation in steps of 10moa up or down if I remember rightly

Originally Posted by tommygun

Alternatively, the burris Z rings with the inserts as someone suggested already, you can increase your elevation in steps of 10moa up or down if I remember rightly

Will still need a picatinny rail if using Zee rings (I love Zee rings). Or Weaver 2 piece bases.

I'm still concerned we are missing something here with this problem but I'm struggling to suggest anything different.

Maybe a faulty scope. Was it brand new?
Could rotate it 45 degrees anti clockwise and see if problem is the same. Windage becomes elevation.
If access to a collimator check scope has full range of adjustment available windage and elevation. Start by optically zeroing the reticle.
How much elevation adjustment was there left on the old scope when it was zeroed at 100 metres?

OP shouldn't have to fit a 20 MOA rail/bushed rings/coke tin packers to get a centre hit at 100 metres. Despite the scope having limited internal elevation in its design.

Were the same rings used that were used for the 3-9?

Originally Posted by Spudattack

Nope, barrel got to go up or scope down.

It’s 100mm low at 100m, scope needs to come down to meet POI.

But agree, not a great option! I assume it’s a piss take!


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You're right! I was laying upside down when I made the comment and had myself all cocked up.

Found this on Burris website which may help.

Some poor guy had run out of windage adjustment and asked what could be done about it.

Response from Burris customer support:

If you are out of adjustment it represents a very slight misalignment in the mounting. The reason many other scopes will work when a Burris will not is that we use larger guide tubes in our scopes. This creates a noticeable increase in brightness and clarity, with the sacrifice of a little adjustment. To compensate for this we invented our Signature Rings in the 70's. These rings negate the need for shims, as they have posi-align inserts that allow you to cant the scope in the direction needed to zero your rifle. Please take a look at the links below for more information.

http://www.burrisoptics.com/signature-rings
http://www.burrisoptics.com/mounting...re-ringsyoutub