Old Codger needs Help

OK so it is no secret that I am as technical as the hole in a doughnut and I am certainly not one to tinker with firearms as I figure the manufacturers probably know what they were doing when they designed and built them. That said, I have a problem and I need some help from you more techno types.

Back in October when the idea of having an ultra long range shoot to honour Toby's contribution to our forum, I was talking to @BRADS about how I would go about getting another 20 minutes of up on my long range rifle scope so that I could have a go at 2000 yards. The solution Brad's suggested was to get some Burris Signature Zee Rings and as if by some miraculous intuition Santa delivered a set to me on Christmas Day.

I have just had a close look at these and I get it that I would put the minus ten insert at the front and the plus ten insert at the back in order to give me the extra 20 minutes of angle but here is the thing. The inserts are marked -10 and +10 but the way I have it figured the insert itself must be minutely tapered on both the upper and lower sections so how do you know which way around to face them when there are four possible combinations to each pair of inserts?. If there is a taper (my eyes are to old to detect this if there is) and I get it the wrong way around then it will not yield the result I am after.

Any words of wisdom around this need to be mono syllabic so that I will understand. Help!

Buy yourself a vernier or micrometer, or use your tongue?

Lay them flat and draw a circle in one then turn it over, it should be smaller or larger, need a fine pencil or hold them together you should feel a taper

I don't think there is a taper, I did exactly the same thing with mine and never noticed a problem. They are curved on the outside from memory and will rotate slightly in the rings.

@Rushy, you want to tilt the front end of the scope down to gain elevation.

To do this, place the -10 at the bottom front, and +10 at the top front. If you have a second set, you can gain further elevation by doing the opposite at the back, +10 at the bottom back, and -10 at the top back.

Give me a call if you want to talk thru the process.

The Burris rings are awesome, I use them on all my rifles, to adjust both elevation and windage...

As tothedirection, the insert pairs have a small cutout on one side, just align those.

Your onto it @ebf :thumbsup:
@Rushy do what ebf said.

Cheers
Pete

Jeese guys I'm glad I don't shoot further than 300 mtrs. .....good luck Rushy and all the best in 2016 mate.....

:thumbsup:http://www.burrisoptics.com/sites/de...nstruction.pdf

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Originally Posted by madjon_

:thumbsup:http://www.burrisoptics.com/sites/de...nstruction.pdf

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Good on ya @madjon_

If all else fails read the instructions.

Cheers
Pete

Good on ya guys and thanks a bunch. I wonder why they don't just whack instructions in with the rings. Will give it a go in a couple of days.

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Originally Posted by Rushy

Good on ya guys and thanks a bunch. I wonder why they don't just whack instructions in with the rings. Will give it a go in a couple of days.

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Everyone knows blokes dont read instructions thats the reason.

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Originally Posted by ebf

@Rushy, you want to tilt the front end of the scope down to gain elevation.

To do this, place the -10 at the bottom front, and +10 at the top front. If you have a second set, you can gain further elevation by doing the opposite at the back, +10 at the bottom back, and -10 at the top back.

Give me a call if you want to talk thru the process.

The Burris rings are awesome, I use them on all my rifles, to adjust both elevation and windage...

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Ask the man that knows:thumbsup:

OK guys I have swapped out the old rings on my long range rifle for the Zee rings and according to the Burris website I should have gained another 21 MOA of up. I have also noticed that the rings are slightly lower than the previous set so have made an adjustment for that on my ballistics calculator. Now all I need to do is get out in some fine weather and find / reset zero.

Rushy shooting at 2 k I'd just bore sight and pray harder!

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Originally Posted by Maca49

Rushy shooting at 2 k I'd just bore sight and pray harder!

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I may have to Maca as that would still require more up than the scope has and fuck knows what it will be like now seeing as how I inadvertently knocked it off the bench causing it to bounce off the tile a few times.

Damn.

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Originally Posted by Rushy

I may have to Maca as that would still require more up than the scope has and fuck knows what it will be like now seeing as how I inadvertently knocked it off the bench causing it to bounce off the tile a few times.

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If the scopes any good mate it will laugh that off and ask" is that all you got?"

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Damn.

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Yep. Rough as guts Rushy strikes again. That is the very reason that I don't tinker with shit.

I'll make you some wedges for your shoes if it helps. Save you stuffing around wedging you scope rings! Mum might have a nice pair of expensive stilettos you could borrow. I'll give you 5 bucks for your scope and take a punt

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I'll make you some wedges for your shoes if it helps. Save you stuffing around wedging you scope rings! Mum might have a nice pair of expensive stilettos you could borrow. I'll give you 5 bucks for your scope and take a punt

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Nah she's all good Maca. The Mark IV is bounce proof.

What range will you zero it at?

How far will she dial now Rushy?


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Originally Posted by Maca49

What range will you zero it at?

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I will find roughly where the zero is at a hundred yards (because for now it will be the best part of two feet out at a hundred) and then when I have it there or there abouts I will zero at three hundred yards. Or did you mean where will I zero it?

Nope that's what I wanted to know, and what's the dial up for 2k

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Nope that's what I wanted to know, and what's the dial up for 2k

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With my current load 2000 yards would require 113 minutes of up which would mean that I would be fully wound up and holding over.

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Originally Posted by Rushy

With my current load 2000 yards would require 113 minutes of up which would mean that I would be fully wound up and holding over.

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:huh:
@Rushy That'll quickly bring a tear to your eye and could seriously affect your aim if your not careful. ;)

Sounds like you need the 20moa insert combo.

Cheers
Pete

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Originally Posted by Rushy

With my current load 2000 yards would require 113 minutes of up which would mean that I would be fully wound up and holding over.

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Shit put some more powder in mate.


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