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Never thought Id say this but thinking about making the leap
Anyone got the good, the bad, the ugly on either brand.
I've done a bit of research and there doesn't seem to be much in it. Pard use 18650 batteries which I like the idea of, Pulsar slightly dearer but not much
Appreciate any thoughts or advice
Cheers
I’ve used the pards for years on my work guns with zero issues also have a handheld, happily recommend them. What ever you go with get a rangefinder. Having the same battery’s is handy as if you get a handheld you can use same battery’s. I think pard still has a 30% off sale on at the moment. The newer models have built in ballistics which are very accurate. You can also get a return to zero mount for the pards so you can switch between day scope and your thermal. Any more questions ask away
Thanks for that. Should have said that I'm looking at a thermal monocular rather than a scope. Can see that without a dog, they'd be handy for, apart from the obvious, locating animals that run in the scrub and then tip up.
Yip your Binos will be shown up in no time haha. The pards are nice and small so can fit in pockets easily and in your hands nicely, still recommend getting a rangefinder model as it makes things so much easier
Ill throw my hat in the ring here as an importer of Sytong thermals.
Theres a bit more to it than just choosing the thermal you can currently afford. Smaller lens thermals will have a lower base magnification and wider field of view vs larger lens which will be higher base mag and narrower field of view. Larger the lens, higher the resolution so if you need to id animals at longer ranges then a larger lens might be better. LRF is not just a nice to have. 18650 batteries are far more desirable than expensive proprietary batteries. Check the warranty on those two brands. I've heard some horror stories for both.
I wrote this a while back. May be some info in there that can help you buy a thermal with the attributes you need for your type of hunting.
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....5/#post1478093
I use a Pard 32/35. Light compact and good image. It is better suited for open country. The 3.7 base mag is great for longer ranges but does have a narrow field of view at short ranges. The 18650 battery option is great, no expensive batteries like the Pulsar. I also think Pulsars warranty is terrible, a mate recently had an issue with a Pulsar device and was without a unit for around 3 1/2 months while they sent it back to the factory for repair. You will get much better support from Owl optics with a Pard. Hik Micro and Sytong also have way better customer support.
How does the side focus/parallax thing work with the night-vision scope attachments? is the parallax focus compulsory or is it OK with your standard scope? I've got a 1-5 leupold on a psp air rifle I'm thinking to add a night vision to.
I have the pard 007s and recommend to have the parallax option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northkiwi
I have shot deer out to 400m and can confirm they work well!
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Your 1-5 leupold wont work that well. TO get a decent image you need a scope with a large objective lens. 50mm to 56mm is best, the scope need to draw in maximum IR light. Parallax is not essential but without it you will never have both the crosshair and the image in focus (not ideal)Quote:
Originally Posted by Northkiwi
With NV you will find you have to refocus when changing fron day mode to night mode when using the IR. This is because infra red is a longer wavelength than visible light and therefore has a different focal point.
useful information, thanks. Sounds like a larger objective scope with parallax is the best way, although then the cost is getting up to what a dedicated NV scope would be as well.
55six have good warranty service.Replace yr monocular straight away while yrs is getting repaired.Did with me,good service.:thumbsup:
We've only ever had two Sytong thermals returned for service. Thats why they are now so popular with pest controllers. They cant afford a 6 month warranty turn around or a manufacturer refusing to honor commercial use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trout
I can vouch for 55six's service. Exemplary.
I use a cheap new nikko stirling scope with clip on front.50mm objective with side adjustment parrallax.Works fine for a few hunred dollers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northkiwi
While it is possible to use a clip on NV without parallax adjustment on your scope it's certainly no where near as clean and your range is limited. I would actually steer away from a dedicated NV scope as they have a much more limited zoom range than traditional scopes, if you're at relatively close range it'd be good, but I can count points on stags out to 600m with my clip on with an external torch which you definitely couldn't do with a dedicated NV scope
The new Arken Zulus might change your mind on what’s possible with digital at longer range.
I have to agree having seen the videos tahr has posted taken with one both day and night that's serious competition for conventional optics at a similar price, and that's ignoring the added benefits of extended twilight and actual NV.
…and laser range finder and ballistics calculator. The future is pretty much here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Henry
If you’re talking handhelds then the PARD takes the cake over the Pulsar in the same price bracket all day long IMO. The 18650 batteries is a big bonus too.