Thread: Police at it again

I don't see the reason behind banning accessories, things like handguards, triggers etc are parts that are 100% useless by themselves and criminals/gang members are hardly going to spend $1000s on pimping out their AR 15s.

Its especially stupid when there are a heap of other firearms (mostly all bolt actions) the make use of these same accessories.

Seems the Police are hell bent on getting the firearm community to hate them. I just hope decisions like this come back to bite them and they come crawling back asking for forgiveness.

Originally Posted by Beetroot

I just hope decisions like this come back to bite them and they come crawling back asking for forgiveness.

I cant see that ever happening.
They dont need us.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

I cant see that ever happening.
They dont need us.

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@veitnamcam

Really?!?

Originally Posted by Cordite

@veitnamcam

Really?!?

What exactly do they need us for then?
I am sure they would be most happy if only themselves and criminals had firearms.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

What exactly do they need us for then?
I am sure they would be most happy if only themselves and criminals had firearms.

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@veitnamcam

Try a google search like police appeal for help .nz

But maybe @systolic can explain to us in what ways NZ Police relies on the help of the public when the public is not legally obliged to do so.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

I cant see that ever happening.
They dont need us.

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I agree, but I do hope one day they do and we can tell them to shove it.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

I cant see that ever happening.
They dont need us.

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I cant see them ever being forgiven. fucking pencil pushing blue fuckers.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Anybody else seen this yet?

Police effectively ban A category AR-15’s – FIREARM OWNERS UNITED NZ

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Nope, hadn't seen that; but I have a vetter coming to check my security this arvo (Recently moved house) si I wonder what effect the current plod attitude will have. This is so fkn wrong. I used to think nobody was above or beyond "the Law", but obviously Police is (deliberately) sic

And then this happens...

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...home-detention

It states "Patterson was able to buy 10 firearms on Hayes' TradeMe account using his name and firearm licence. The guns included two AK-47 type weapons. " and then it adds "While Hayes held a gun licence it didn't permit him to own military style semi-automatic weapons either.". So much for accuracy. If he got them from trade me they would not have been MSSA and if they are now MSSA it is because they modified them afterwards....

Another question arises. If he enabled an unlicensed person to obtain firearms, is he still a fit and proper person to hold a license??????

Originally Posted by Cordite

I am reluctant to believe you, just don't want to. I want to believe in the good of government and police, I suppose just like the victim of a con artist later describes he or she deeply wanted to believe the con artist was honest and straight. Disappointing, what else to say.

Anyway, this is clearly what the recent redacted police recommendations to the minister of police were about. If that is the case and a conversation took place on this topic I just can't imagine MOP is entirely ignorant of this deliberate obstructionism being carried out now. Two-face?

Hardly redacted and personally doubt he didn't understand what was being said after they said "...this approach by Police is subject to legal challenge"

Originally Posted by timattalon

And then this happens...

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...home-detention

It states "Patterson was able to buy 10 firearms on Hayes' TradeMe account using his name and firearm licence. The guns included two AK-47 type weapons. " and then it adds "While Hayes held a gun licence it didn't permit him to own military style semi-automatic weapons either.". So much for accuracy. If he got them from trade me they would not have been MSSA and if they are now MSSA it is because they modified them afterwards....

Another question arises. If he enabled an unlicensed person to obtain firearms, is he still a fit and proper person to hold a license??????

Lots of info missing here, how'd he get a mail order form completed with someone else's license?
He didn't.

Originally Posted by Jexla

Hardly redacted and personally doubt he didn't understand what was being said after they said "...this approach by Police is subject to legal challenge"

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Lots of info missing here, how'd he get a mail order form completed with someone else's license?
He didn't.

So are they getting all motor vehicles capable of over 100km/h, and parts that could be used to modify or repair them, seized as well? That is a way people are getting around the 100km/h speed limits and breaking the law.

Originally Posted by gadgetman

So are they getting all motor vehicles capable of over 100km/h, and parts that could be used to modify or repair them, seized as well? That is a way people are getting around the 100km/h speed limits and breaking the law.

exactly.

Hi Guys ,

They will do what ever they want too , right or wrong , legal or illegal , those words are meaningless to them , by fair means or fowl they will get their way , we need to be more political , and either form own party ? , or get reps in a existing party , AND vote for the party that has our interests at heart , & that means to me , not sticking to maybe your normal party , ie National or Labour or NZ1st or Greens , BUT the ONE that best aligns with hunters/shooters etc , that is whats needed by US .
But few will do that , they will still vote for their usuall party reguardless .
I see firearm ownership as the main indicator of a truely free democratic country , so , it shows Freedom , & that should be a Major aspect to most people that understand real freedom .
Me I have always voted for National , apart from the one time social credit was around , as they are usually pro business , anti hand outs , and have worked in real jobs in the real world & tend to run country like a business , ie live within their means etc , not spent 15-20yrs at UNI , as professonal students/teachers , .
So next election I will vote for the party that was the best to offer for hunters etc , and that maybe a party I have never voted for before .
SO I vote for Freedom , thats more important than , being blinkered into always voting for your default party , also we need to make it clear that IF they lie & go back on thier word then we will vote against them next election , so as to hold them to account .
Funny thing is , that this is not Labour or any party pushing this , its the Police , they are un-affected my our voting , BUT the Parties that are thier Bosses , are affected by voting , maybe they will listen , Opps maybe not .

Rant over

Originally Posted by ChrisF

Hi Guys ,

They will do what ever they want too , right or wrong , legal or illegal , those words are meaningless to them , by fair means or fowl they will get their way , we need to be more political , and either form own party ? , or get reps in a existing party , AND vote for the party that has our interests at heart , & that means to me , not sticking to maybe your normal party , ie National or Labour or NZ1st or Greens , BUT the ONE that best aligns with hunters/shooters etc , that is whats needed by US .
But few will do that , they will still vote for their usuall party reguardless .
I see firearm ownership as the main indicator of a truely free democratic country , so , it shows Freedom , & that should be a Major aspect to most people that understand real freedom .
Me I have always voted for National , apart from the one time social credit was around , as they are usually pro business , anti hand outs , and have worked in real jobs in the real world & tend to run country like a business , ie live within their means etc , not spent 15-20yrs at UNI , as professonal students/teachers , .
So next election I will vote for the party that was the best to offer for hunters etc , and that maybe a party I have never voted for before .
SO I vote for Freedom , thats more important than , being blinkered into always voting for your default party , also we need to make it clear that IF they lie & go back on thier word then we will vote against them next election , so as to hold them to account .
Funny thing is , that this is not Labour or any party pushing this , its the Police , they are un-affected my our voting , BUT the Parties that are thier Bosses , are affected by voting , maybe they will listen , Opps maybe not .

Rant over

I very nearly didn't vote last time round, and by very nearly mean I got to the polling booth at 3minutes to closing.
I hated every party equally, but at last minute remembered Paula Bennett and National were showing some good will towards forearm owners, so voted National solely on that.

Originally Posted by Beetroot

I very nearly didn't vote last time round, and by very nearly mean I got to the polling booth at 3minutes to closing.
I hated every party equally, but at last minute remembered Paula Bennett and National were showing some good will towards forearm owners, so voted National solely on that.

I gave the Cheshire Cat my vote thanks to quite shooter friendly policies. I did note PBs good performance too but Cheshire Cat unexpectedly chose to form a government with labour. I expect him and his party to inspire some straight thinking to whatever camp they're camping in.

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