Thread: Rifle/ caliber opinions for bush and mountain

I think Ruger were still making them in the No. 1

In my opinion the best caliber is the one your mates shoot. That way if you ever run out of ammo you can "borrow" some from them

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

who still makes a rifle chambered for the old .303 brit???? other than possibly in a custom break open,and I imagine they be few n far between.

Bumblefoot and I were drooling over one that was being imported to NZ a few months ago, Italian made from memory.
GPM.

It was a Uberti Courtney Stalking Rifle an a High Wall falling block action. Priced at $3,000.00 though and sold out.
GPM.

Yup; I was tempted! But I decided that it was too nice to hunt with and I couldn't really justify 3k with all the work I still have to do (and pay for!) on the property. I'm actually happier that I bought my new/old girl! It suits me to the ground

Actually; a mate of mine in Oz just bought a 25/303 on a Mauser 98 action

If you are a reloader, then this is your era (current shortages accepted) with modern projectiles and powders enabling all "the old cartridges" to fully reach their potential .
. Making darlings like the x57s the equal of anything - including the Crudmoors, wsms and the like.

and .24 .25 .27 calibre projectiles are still to be found....

The .257 Roberts i saw yesterday would be awesome


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Originally Posted by Tentman

If you are a reloader, then this is your era (current shortages accepted) with modern projectiles and powders enabling all "the old cartridges" to fully reach their potential .
. Making darlings like the x57s the equal of anything - including the Crudmoors, wsms and the like.

Until your brass or worse still, action lets go.

Trying to push a pre or worse still, war era Mauser to modern pressures will probably result in the rifle not being around for much longer.

I have many calibers and shot in all sorts of places at all sorts of game. My do anything rifle is a 308 I have two loads a 150 gr spbt that shoots zero at 100. great for the bush and out too 200 then another load 125gr that shoots 2 inches high at 100 without changing sights. perfect for long range. as I said a have many rifles but if I was only allowed one the 308 would be it for anything in nz. but you must also have a trusty 22 rimfire

125grn .308 "perfect for long range"....has bungi been reincarnated perhaps???

Originally Posted by caberslash

Until your brass or worse still, action lets go.

Trying to push a pre or worse still, war era Mauser to modern pressures will probably result in the rifle not being around for much longer.

Pretty sure he meant the historic cartridge in a modern action, loaded hard, a 7x57 in a T3 would show a clean pair of heels to the 7mm08, 257 Bob could be a hot proposition too, quite appealing that one.

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

Pretty sure he meant the historic cartridge in a modern action, loaded hard, a 7x57 in a T3 would show a clean pair of heels to the 7mm08, 257 Bob could be a hot proposition too, quite appealing that one.

Doubt there would be that much difference, as the sacrifices made to accommodate a longer case don't add up.

All being equal (same action, barrel length and twist rate, bullet used), a few hundred fps more (being optimistic here) will not mean much in the grand scheme of things if the rifle actually has to be carried a great distance. Cramming more powder into a case (7x57 should be about 8-10 grains more H20 capacity) won't be worth it for a marginal increase in speed unless it's just a numbers game.

The fact that 7x57 is a 'long action' cartridge, and the 7mm08 a 'short action' one, brings up the whole '6.5 CM vs. 6.5x55' debate, and unless you live in Scandinavia, the latter cartridge is not the better choice.

Good reason why people are choosing to build 7mm SAUM's instead of 7mm Rem Mags now.

Originally Posted by caberslash

Doubt there would be that much difference, as the sacrifices made to accommodate a longer case don't add up.

All being equal (same action, barrel length and twist rate, bullet used), a few hundred fps more (being optimistic here) will not mean much in the grand scheme of things if the rifle actually has to be carried a great distance. Cramming more powder into a case (7x57 should be about 8-10 grains more H20 capacity) won't be worth it for a marginal increase in speed unless it's just a numbers game.

The fact that 7x57 is a 'long action' cartridge, and the 7mm08 a 'short action' one, brings up the whole '6.5 CM vs. 6.5x55' debate, and unless you live in Scandinavia, the latter cartridge is not the better choice.

Good reason why people are choosing to build 7mm SAUM's instead of 7mm Rem Mags now.

Please take that back....6.5x55 is a great cartridge....Especially in the likes of Howa or Husqvarna (1600)