Who has got/seen both? Price vs weight vs finish vs wait time? Other considerations?
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Who has got/seen both? Price vs weight vs finish vs wait time? Other considerations?
It's epic that we have multiple domestic stock options.
Ask Abe. He has been using both so should have good idea.
My Senator for a SA Rem700 was lighter than a McM EDGE Sako 75 by a fair bit.
I have a stug stock and i am def a fan of the finish. Its not perfect looks wise but it works perfectly and im not afraid to knock , drop , scratch it or abuse it
yep had the stug and seem to tick all the boxs especially the all important price. Finish is not "perfect" cosmetically but bedding is real good so the important bits are done right. Wait time is awhile i think?
Personally i would prefer one that doesn't have the carbon perfectly positioned like the senator and SG and actually rather the visual appearance of the mcmillan which seems to have the carbon just roughly placed in.
I hate hate hate the look of carbon so I would paint anything
senator stocks have definitely improved their quality but also increased their prices
I have a Senator not cheap at $950 but very light and only took 4 weeks to make, the only thing I would change is the recoil pad which is a very soft thin rubber one and when using it as a walking stick goes very flat and looks crap.
I have both, I love the finish of the senator stocks but as other people have said the Stug stocks are cheaper and rougher but still do the same job.
I really rate stug stocks, but you will find the odd imperfection in the gel coat...but hey, they're hand made so you've gotta be realistic. They represent exceptional value for money and mine has been well used and doesn't look worse for wear...still looks great!
Senator stocks are very nice too, better finish on the gel coat, but he does hide his sins under a textured paint in some areas...but over all a better level of finish. But nearly twice the price.
If it's for a safe queen you'd probably be better with senator, but for a practical hunting rifle my choice is stug.
After a couple hunts, both will look much the same :-)
Kj
I'd almost lean toward paying twice as much to avoid an 8-10 month wait, more than caring about the finish given that either would be painted
I'm not sure about senator, but stug will include bedding in his price, so you get a perfect fit to your action, not just a generic fit.
http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/a...psceb3d0d2.jpg
Which is quite a saving and one less cost to consider.
Kj
All things considered, I would love a stug stock but don't think I'll ever get one because of the wait time involved.
Guessing you haven't progressed the other one... I know where that vixen stock went if you want to make enquiries
You just need more then one gun mateQuote:
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Nah I'm not really keen on the 75 styleQuote:
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High Tech is probably gone forever
Bugger...
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Ha I think it's just you bro... Your defiantly not Irish anyway...Quote:
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Abe got me a senator that has a nice palm swell, high comb, long LOP, no butt hook and slim hunter style fore end that is absolutely mint for me.
Tried every stock possible before settling on this. I actually rate the HTG higher so got one of those coming too. Because someone sold the first one before he told me it had arrived.
Again, if your about, have a feelio.
Chris
Had a Stug stock on order, after several months and having to chase, gave up and got a Senator, four weeks later, had my rifle back, bedded ready to go, had Jason put a fleck stone finish on it, so no carbon look. Very tidy work, you get what you pay for
You certainly get what you pay for, cosmetically you can't really compare the two. Practically they both do the same thing.
If money's no object get a senator. Otherwise the sg stocks certainly save weight.
I've got a astug ordered for my A7. He was straight with me about the wait time. Up to a year. It was my choice to say yes or no. I chose yes. It's ready and taken about 8 months I think. Great value.
You aren't being entirely truthful with what happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by 257weatherby
You first PM'd me on the 18.4.2014 enquiring about a stock for a Rem 700 short action. I replied and told you it would be a 7-8 month wait (which would put me starting on 18.11.2014), to which you agreed to go on the waitlist.
You then PM'd on 3.6.14 asking how long it was now, to which I replied 4 months (which would put it 3.10.14)
You then pM'd on the 27.7.14 to which I replied you were 7th on the list.
You then PM'd again on the 13.9.14 asking how long. I noticed you had switched from wanting a Rem 700 SA to a Rem Model 7. I had just started a model 7 stock for another customer that day. I replied that I would start it the next weekend and we discussed how many layers of carbon fibre you wanted and what sort of recoil pad you wanted.
I started your stock the next weekend, 20.9.14 , nearly 2 months earlier than the 7-8 months i first quoted.
Then on the 12.10.14 you PM"d me
"Stu,
You obviously have far too many to do and are too stretched, have now given up on this and gone in a different direction,take me off your waiting list.
Andy."
to which I replied
"I'm not quite sure what you are on about Andy. As I stated in my last message to you on the 13th September I was going to start it the following weekend, which I did. I was going to get in touch with you today to say send your rifle out so I can bed it in and finish off the stock. But I see you tried to sell your rifle on the 21st September and it looks like you have sold it to Gibo yesterday."
Smoked him
Lol.... Good comeback stug.
Luckily you are only doing it part time and don't have to deal with that sort of crap all the time.
A bit off topic, but i did see a good prototype carbon stock from an outfit in the waikato recently. Not sure who it was from, but the quality of the finish and inletting was very good, as good as the mcmillans, and with a very hard high quality filler.
If i had to wait more than 4-6 months i would get a mcmillan though. I have seen a few of the others too, by the way....
Well if its just lying around @stug ;)
Kiwi compersite stocks, new ones that use to be called local compersite stocks. They do look nice I hope there customer service has changed with the name to tho. Have been in touch with Steve as well.Quote:
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