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Thread: "Short-Pig" ideas - Short barrel 22rf semi-auto??

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    "Short-Pig" ideas - Short barrel 22rf semi-auto??

    Gidday Guys

    Following a couple of missions where the barrel of my Miroku "Browning" SA-22 (with suppressor) keeps getting hung up on things I want to do a special "truck gun". Its too nice to cut down or I'd do it in a hearbeat - also the tube mag is a pain in a truck.

    Semi auto I think. Minimum legal length barrel (I'll have it cut) with suppressor. Got to shoot really well (much as I like 10-22's they are too "variable" in the accuracy stakes). Don't care what sort of stock. Can't have a tube mag (which I like) cause I want to cut the barrel short.

    So - without spending a lot of money can anyone suggest something better than a Marlin 795 (or similar model) for my 22 "Short Pig". Ideas??

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    papoose
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    Apparently they kill porcupines well!

    I must say like the "last-shot" bolt hold-open also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northdude View Post
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    Agreed

    Extremely reliable, accurate, and not ammo fussy. Great gun.

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    Papoose for sure. Half the weight of those ruger takedowns. They pack up so small in the canvas/neoprene bag too, much less of a pain to have then a full length rifle bag/case. I've also seen one that had a second barrel, which had been turned into an overbarrel suppressor setup, was really quite swish.
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    My brother has a Magtech semi which is a tidy little rifle. Shoots well too. Might be worth a look.

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    Hmmm - with some more thought maybe a really short semi is a bit of a liability, much more chance of putting a round in your own foot. So maybe a bolt action instead methinks.

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    probably the shortest option could be a g22 walther ive got one need to modify the trigger linkage to improve the trigger tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tentman View Post
    Hmmm - with some more thought maybe a really short semi is a bit of a liability, much more chance of putting a round in your own foot. So maybe a bolt action instead methinks.
    What brought you to that conclusion @Tentman?

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    Over many years of shooting I've seen several guys with semi's (especially 22's, probably cause they're so common) who were un-aware they didn't have the safety on and a round up the spout - easy for that to turn into an accident.

    It seems to happen a bit when there is some "action on" or things don't go exactly to plan. I'm just as human as the next bloke and a likely outcome of the above is shooting yourself in the leg or foot - ask more than one policemen who've done it with a pistol - the short barrel just makes it easier to do.

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    Hmmm - seems I've not been thinking enough - and not familiar enough with semi-auto rifles and their "procedures". With the semi (providing it has a bolt "hold open") all the shooter has to do to make the rifle very safe is pull the bolt and lock it open (and catch the spare round). Thanks to Greghud for pointing out the error of my ways (thinking anyway).

    As with lots of things firearm related it pays to think about "procedure" a lot. Sorry if I've lead anyone astray.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tentman View Post
    Hmmm - seems I've not been thinking enough - and not familiar enough with semi-auto rifles and their "procedures". With the semi (providing it has a bolt "hold open") all the shooter has to do to make the rifle very safe is pull the bolt and lock it open (and catch the spare round). Thanks to Greghud for pointing out the error of my ways (thinking anyway).

    As with everything firearm related it pays to think about "procedure" a lot. Sorry if I've lead anyone astray.
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    Cz511? Just hard to get mags

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    One of the big thing with ALL firearms learn how to use it safely or don't use it. Some sort of bolt hold open is a must on all my semi's for hunting, especially for hunting at night i.e. possums. Why? when I have to cross fences etc it is a simple case of mag-out, bolt back and empty chamber. I can then cross fence, pluck a possum or whatever and I can see the bolt open so know it's empty. With an AK I kept finding myself opening the bolt to check an empty chamber every other moment.

    This one has a last shot bolt hold open which is awesome as it will show you when it's out of ammo and time to change mags. You wont get "empty chamber=escaped possum" like I had last night.

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    Step 1. Don't point it at your foot or anything else that you don't want to shoot.

    Step 2. I used to chuck a spent case sideways into the breach on a semi-auto which prevents the bolt going fully into battery. The end sticking out is a visual check and it's quick to drop the spent case out and close the bolt fully when needed. On most designs (but probably not all as I haven't checked them all) the width of a .22LR case should engage the 'bolt not in battery' safety devices and prevent the firearm from discharging. This is or should be a built in feature of a semi-auto rimfire to prevent a case that hangs up and does not fully eject from stopping the bolt closing fully on the next round and the firearm being fired in an 'out of battery' or 'case head unsupported' situation. You need to check that this will work on your firearm and not create a situation you don't want but it's something I used to use when I was using a semi regularly from the back of a quad on pest control duties. Obviously this is a hunting dodge or workaround and does not replace good safe firearms handling techniques but it can provide an extra level of safety if you choose to use it and it works with your firearm...

 

 

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