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Thread: Shotgun Restoration ???

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    Shotgun Restoration ???

    Hi All,
    I have been given my Grandad's Side x Side 12Ga, Leech & Son Chelmsford 87xx.
    Mum has had it as a wall hanger since 1987 but since my parents last move they no longer have an appropriate place to display it or 2 split cane fly rods.
    Anyway it's spent the last 9 months in a gun case 200 mtr from the sea.

    I'm thinking of getting someone to give it a birthday for me. It has nice wood and metal work.
    However it has been well knocked around and has plenty of surface rust.

    So I'm looking for some suggestions as who I could contact to do this for me.

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    Might be a candidate for TJ in Hamilton. He is the man for reblue work.

    Best to release those hammers on that gun - not doing the mainsprings any favours leaving it cocked like that. nice old gun
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    Murray "Gunner" Cameron in Welly

    He is a wizard when it comes to shotgun internals.

    mecgun @ xtra.co.nz
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    Shotgun Restoration

    Nelson Collie, Status Guns , Invercargill, tidied up Dads side by side for me.
    I got onto a guy with a replicator who copied the stock. I got the walnut from a fella in Nelson. The original was cracked, as a lot did when they tried longer , hotter loads.

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    I'll try and tally up the hours my last SBS resto took.
    Depending how deep you want it tickled, be aware a new shotgun will be cheaper!

    It's entirely possible to do it yourself, as well, and I'm pretty sure I've typed it all out before but would be happy to run you through it.

    And while it's possible to blue it, the barrels could have originally been browned, too. So depends whether you want to mint it up and put it in service (I would) or restore to original, or tastefully improve...
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    I forsee many hours steaming dents out of that bastard!
    Bottom screw look off-time, could be photo angle, could have been someone careless in there previously. Also hinge pin in action and ejector-actuator in forestock look blue? so potentially replaced?

    Also doesn't look like much proofs on those pipes? BP only maybe!

    Looking on phone so detail not great.
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    It is a common type of old gun that really only has personal value to you. A sympathetic clean up is all you should be getting done. Al full polished and reblued, all-singing, all-dancing, restoration as shown in the previous photos will cost more than the gun is worth and devalue it at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gundoc View Post
    It is a common type of old gun that really only has personal value to you. A sympathetic clean up is all you should be getting done. Al full polished and reblued, all-singing, all-dancing, restoration as shown in the previous photos will cost more than the gun is worth and devalue it at the same time.
    Regards the shotgun I posted pictures of your comments are all very true. In its original state it was worth zero, the barrels had separated from the ribs and it was useless.
    However I was prepared to spend some money to get it useable and safe. And give it to my boy for his 30th. Whilst ringing around I got pissed of with the condescending comments “ it’s not a Purdey you know” , and “ it’ll cost more than it’s worth”.
    As if I didn’t fucking know that already ??
    That just hardened my resolve to get it done.
    Nelson did it no questions asked and was very good to deal with throughout the whole process.
    My boy now has a tidy little shotty that belonged to a Grandfather he never met.
    I’ve done the same with a 1920’s Stevens .22 that I learnt to shoot with., given it to my boys wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shift14 View Post
    Regards the shotgun I posted pictures of your comments are all very true. In its original state it was worth zero, the barrels had separated from the ribs and it was useless.
    However I was prepared to spend some money to get it useable and safe. And give it to my boy for his 30th. Whilst ringing around I got pissed of with the condescending comments “ it’s not a Purdey you know” , and “ it’ll cost more than it’s worth”.
    As if I didn’t fucking know that already ??
    That just hardened my resolve to get it done.
    Nelson did it no questions asked and was very good to deal with throughout the whole process.
    My boy now has a tidy little shotty that belonged to a Grandfather he never met.
    I’ve done the same with a 1920’s Stevens .22 that I learnt to shoot with., given it to my boys wife.

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    Thanks Guys,
    Don't have an issue with spending more that it's worth as it's sentimental and has family hand-me-down valve, One son may get my Dad's Sav 99 the other his one. That one of shift14's has come up beautifully. Not sure I want it that flash but the wood alone justifies spending some money on it.

    This one is in mechanically sound condition, the bore looks clean and shiny except just past where the end of the shell would sit. I would assume the barrels were browned not blued. They do look quite thin out at the muzzle end.
    It would be nice to be able to get it cleared as safe to use, I'm hoping it's not just black powder so getting it dated would be nice. All the 1920's and later guns I see on line from Leech and sons are internal hammers.

    Mimms, I will give the forum a search to see if I can find your previous posts on cleaning up a sxs. Thax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebf View Post
    Murray "Gunner" Cameron in Welly

    He is a wizard when it comes to shotgun internals.

    mecgun @ xtra.co.nz
    +1, from memory he has very helpful when I needed some parts for an older gun

 

 

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