Thread: Supressors, why alloy??

I see lots of people that will only use alloys cans. WHY???

It's a shit metal, soft, weak, corrodes, stresses, erodes, expands, shrinks. Yet all you want is alloy cans. WTF? I don't see any, as in not one good barrel manufacture that builds a barrel out of the crap yet you all will put it on the end of a barrel. I just don't understand it. To worried that .0005 of a kilo will break your back?

I see heaps of reasons NOT to go alloy, but only one for.

Some would say the same of s/s 304/316 being the most common ones out there are soft and suffer work hardening and cracking.
Not sure if this is an issue in suppressors or not but wouldnt mind betting that a baffel light enough to flex would eventually crack and fall to bits.
Alloy should be cheaper to produce.
If built to the same weight the alloy one would be stronger. But more bulky
Why arnt we all demanding titanium ones?

The weights in the worst possible place so it becomes a major issue

It's not the "oh god it's heavy" effect of the weight so much as the "oh god it balances and points like shit" effect.


I'm all for steel where the weight doesn't matter so much.

Maybe VC, BUT ss lasts a shitload longer than alloy which cracks to (and fast, ask anyone with an alloy boat), and doesn't like fatigue at all. To get the same strength as ss the weight would be pretty much the same. So were are the advantages?

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

Maybe VC, BUT ss lasts a shitload longer than alloy which cracks to (and fast, ask anyone with an alloy boat), and doesn't like fatigue at all. To get the same strength as ss the weight would be pretty much the same. So were are the advantages?

they have alloy bodys an stainless internals so what are you pissing about?

the alloy tube an ends??

start up in the suppressor buisness you mite be the new man

No need, there is plenty of GOOD S/S cans out there now.

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

No need, there is plenty of GOOD S/S cans out there now.

why are you moaning then? they work still last thousands of rounds an have you ever seen one crack? bit pointless thread its each to there own

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

Maybe VC, BUT ss lasts a shitload longer than alloy which cracks to (and fast, ask anyone with an alloy boat), and doesn't like fatigue at all. To get the same strength as ss the weight would be pretty much the same. So were are the advantages?

Yep everything fatiuges and cracks eventually, the old mans alicraft is 20+y now and only had its first cracks appear last year.He puts around 80 to 100 hours on the motor every year! With anything its all about design.And by that I mean designing for the expected load and fequency below yeild. That requires a clever barstard or a clever computer and someone who Knows how to work it.
Witch isnt me. If I was to build a helicopter it would be too strong to get of the ground
But it should be possible to build a alloy suppessor that is both lighter and stronger than a s/s(304/316)

Ok VC, then why is alloy used so little when the serious stuff is going on? You never see piping going in using the crap even though it should be cheaper. A bit like fluting really. If it was of any use it would be getting done. It's not. Steel and S/S. Now if you were going to clad the scope get the alloy out, makes good rifle stocks too.

We got cracking on the boat last year, under ten year old but does some work.

I'll take a lower life that is still probably comparable to the life of my barrel to have a 200gram suppressor instead of a 600gram one, when it's hanging off the end of my hunting rifle.

Originally Posted by gimp

I'll take a lower life that is still probably comparable to the life of my barrel to have a 200gram suppressor instead of a 600gram one, when it's hanging off the end of my hunting rifle.

Same

Have you ever priced up Titanium tube???

Titanium is around twice as strong as aluminium, however its around twice as heavy also.
So weight for weight there isnt much in it other than cost, which is huge.

Its also not the most pleasant to machine

How about a ceramic suppressor Maybe we could get some made cheap in India those fulla's are good at pottery

Originally Posted by Philipo

How about a ceramic suppressor Maybe we could get some made cheap in India those fulla's are good at pottery

We have enough exploding cans as it is thanks.

I think a new record was set on the w/e for number of rounds? (or lack of)