Thoughts on this rifle/deal? Remington700 7mm-08

Hi all, looking to just get the opinion from a few forum members for this rifle/scope combo in the TradeMe link below

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketpl...5?bof=s4ksczCc

Its a 7mm-08 Remington 700 w/ Zeiss Terra 3x 3-9 (x42 maybe?). Guy is asking around $1300ish. I had previously been looking for a second hand Tikka in .270 but saw this and thought it was a reasonable deal on similar caliber. Just like to hear peoples opinion on the setup, potentially compared to a Tikka/.270.

Mainly hunting deer atm but looking to move into Tahr come Spring and keen to have a solid setup to be confident with. Hunting range would be max 400yd.

Cheers

if it was me this listing is a better deal howa alpine 7mm08, with leupold and sonic suppressor
rifle alone retails for 1750$ scope 450$ and suppressor 450ish for 1400$ reserve
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketpl...1?bof=s4ksczCc

@jpurdon - The Remington isn't threaded - $130 - 150, plus suppressor. Just something to consider.

https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....ainless-82230/ Something like this looks like better buying.

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Originally Posted by Carbine

if it was me this listing is a better deal howa alpine 7mm08, with leupold and sonic suppressor
rifle alone retails for 1750$ scope 450$ and suppressor 450ish for 1400$ reserve
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketpl...1?bof=s4ksczCc

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Looks like a run of the mill floppy rubber stock howa to me not an Alpine model

https://www.trademe.co.nz/3586445216
I think this is a better option the other one is a very basic model 700 i know this is older but better value i think.

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The earlier BDLs were better built but as for value, it depends on what it actually sells for, not the starting price.

keep an eye on the buy/sell
personally I think that remington sell above what they should
none of those are great deals

BDL means no bottom metal which ill deal with on a kimber but theres no need to go without on a remington with how wide they are in the stock

https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....30/index2.html

if you are after 7mm 08 this would be a great rifle, and he is looking to change to 243
all round better rifle than both those above and you can choose what you want rather than getting stuck with a scope thats not right ect

Magnum sports Stratford has a 690 Tikka in .270 they are a little heavier but I would have that over all the others mentioned - they generally are real shooters and very well made

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Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

Looks like a run of the mill floppy rubber stock howa to me not an Alpine model

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hollowed bolt knob, shaved receiver just in a hogue stock

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Originally Posted by jpurdon

Hi all, looking to just get the opinion from a few forum members for this rifle/scope combo in the TradeMe link below

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketpl...5?bof=s4ksczCc

Its a 7mm-08 Remington 700 w/ Zeiss Terra 3x 3-9 (x42 maybe?). Guy is asking around $1300ish. I had previously been looking for a second hand Tikka in .270 but saw this and thought it was a reasonable deal on similar caliber. Just like to hear peoples opinion on the setup, potentially compared to a Tikka/.270.

Mainly hunting deer atm but looking to move into Tahr come Spring and keen to have a solid setup to be confident with. Hunting range would be max 400yd.

Cheers

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I could do you a deal on a Browning Xbolt in .270 - Talleys and Weaver Grandslam 3-10x40. $1600 and no pissing about with Arms office and couriers. Confirmed shooter.
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The rifle would probably be quite satisfactory but so would quite a few others. Second hand rifles is a competitive market and it can be quite hard to move one on.
You may want to upgrade from a 3-9 scope when you’re ready to shoot past 200m.

So the key factor is price.
Find the price of a new tikka 270 and entry level scope of a name brand like like leupold, burris, zeiss or swaro.
Second hand should be 60-70% of that.
Check rings quality (for tikka, genuine optilock are expensive but optimal) cleaning gear and extras like a bag and ammo that might come with it and price those in too.
You will want 100 rounds of factory ammo bought at once all the same batch which is a fair whack of $$$ and could be decisive if you have a limit.
Add on a bit because Rem mod 700 can be hard to get new at times and subtract a couple of hundred because you’re in the south island and really wanted a 270.

Buy Aussie pricing it's probably a fair price but is it what you want?.

We can't have supressors, so discounting that I shoot an un-supressed 7mm-08 and I would like the cartridge, and others.

I haven't ever used a .270 but I expect it would suit your purpose.

I have bought several secondhand Tikka at around $900-$1000. No scope

Many upgrade options for Howa Tikka and Remington, all are capable of hunting accuracy so that probably doesn't narrow it down much.

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Originally Posted by Bill999

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BDL means no bottom metal ..

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You're confused with ADL. A BDL is not a cheapie.

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Originally Posted by jpurdon

Hi all, looking to just get the opinion from a few forum members for this rifle/scope combo in the TradeMe link below

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketpl...5?bof=s4ksczCc

Its a 7mm-08 Remington 700 w/ Zeiss Terra 3x 3-9 (x42 maybe?). Guy is asking around $1300ish. I had previously been looking for a second hand Tikka in .270 but saw this and thought it was a reasonable deal on similar caliber. Just like to hear peoples opinion on the setup, potentially compared to a Tikka/.270.

Mainly hunting deer atm but looking to move into Tahr come Spring and keen to have a solid setup to be confident with. Hunting range would be max 400yd.

Cheers

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It's got a J-lock bolt.

Avoid unless you want a rifle that could suddenly decide it no longer wants to fire after a wee bump. You can remove it by replacing the firing pin assembly (GreTan or, shock horror... PTG....) which would be 100 USD down the drain.

Stock looks crap too.

If buying a Rem, look for either a Stainless Action with HS Precision stock (avoid RR prefix receivers) or get something old like the 6mm Rem that @257weatherby has for sale.

Most of the quality Rem 700's or Model 7's were made during the time when bolts were still being made with cuts for the bolt locking safety, although this feature was deleted quite early on.

Tikka t3 308, hardy suppressor, tikka rings and a brand new in the box burris droptine 3-9x40 scope $1500

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Originally Posted by Carbine

hollowed bolt knob, shaved receiver just in a hogue stock

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That’s literally just a run of the mill howa every one I’ve seen had the hollowed bolt knob etc. alpine models have a cerakote barrelled action and lighter profile barrel but most the weight savings are in the Legendary Arms stock

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Originally Posted by caberslash

It's got a J-lock bolt.

Avoid unless you want a rifle that could suddenly decide it no longer wants to fire after a wee bump. You can remove it by replacing the firing pin assembly (GreTan or, shock horror... PTG....) which would be 100 USD down the drain.



Stock looks crap too.

If buying a Rem, look for either a Stainless Action with HS Precision stock (avoid RR prefix receivers) or get something old like the 6mm Rem that @257weatherby has for sale.

Most of the quality Rem 700's or Model 7's were made during the time when bolts were still being made with cuts for the bolt locking safety, although this feature was deleted quite early on.

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Can you shed some light on the RR receiver chat not the first time iv herd it iv got a 700 RR####bla bla and it shoots 1 on top of the other with 168amax it’s bloody awsome has a trigger tech trigger

Cheers for all the info, will leave the Rem700. Ideally buying local so don't have to deal with arms dealers also. Thanks again

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Originally Posted by Kelton

Can you shed some light on the RR receiver chat not the first time iv herd it iv got a 700 RR####bla bla and it shoots 1 on top of the other with 168amax it’s bloody awsome has a trigger tech trigger

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Yeah same here. My RR 7mm RM is all good, even with the factory tube on it…

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Originally Posted by jpurdon

Cheers for all the info, will leave the Rem700. Ideally buying local so don't have to deal with arms dealers also. Thanks again

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Just buy the Tikka 7-08 listed on here job done

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Originally Posted by Kelton

Can you shed some light on the RR receiver chat not the first time iv herd it iv got a 700 RR####bla bla and it shoots 1 on top of the other with 168amax it’s bloody awsome has a trigger tech trigger

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https://www.longriflesinc.com/produc...rvice-for-m700

Having gone over about a dozen RR prefix actions, only 2 of them were close to having contact between the bolt handle and primary extraction cam, others plain missed.

To get a proper look you need to take the firing pin spring and trigger mechanism out but a 'close enough' measurement is to drop the firing pin and see how close the bolt handle and reciever cam comes to touching when you lift the bolt handle to recock the bolt. There should be minimal clerance between the front edge of the bolt handle and most rearward portion of the receiver's rear bridge.

Supoosedly due to Remington changing the forging moulds which resulted in bolt handles having surfaces that did not work as well with the receiver's cam, followed by a change in process meaning the bolt handle was used to set headspace... not a good idea at all...

This is mostly gleaned from Long Rifles Inc (Chad Dixon) and his posts of Facebook and Snipers Hide.

I'm sure @gundoc would be a better person to ask about primary extractions and Remington rifles in general as I only own two and don't have experience of fixing a Remington bolt handle that has not been timed correctly (and then broken off... :psychotic: )

Just sharing what research I did before buying as I didn't want a lemon. Remington Firearms has great concepts and designs but their execution and marketing usually leaves a lot to be desired!

For the past few years Remington rifles have suffered several quality control issues, some of which beggar belief. The problems began when the solvency of the company was at risk and many skilled workers were laid off. In recent years they have been employing unskilled/semi skilled people who simply lack the knowledge required to produce items of consistent quality. These problems are caused by management being top-heavy and trying to maximise profits by taking shortcuts with the very product that is the sole source of their income. Selling items that fail on the most basic levels is a guarantee of business failure. I wouldn't touch a current Remington.

Tikka the only way to go. Hits the sweet spot with price vs quality. Save a a bit more and get something with a decent brand scope that dials up with 3-15 or 4-16 power zoom and you’re set forever.

Il count myself lucky then because my RR 700 functions wel and has had a heap of rounds down it and so far so good on my model 7 so il keep my fingers and toes crossed

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Originally Posted by caberslash

https://www.longriflesinc.com/produc...rvice-for-m700

Having gone over about a dozen RR prefix actions, only 2 of them were close to having contact between the bolt handle and primary extraction cam, others plain missed.

To get a proper look you need to take the firing pin spring and trigger mechanism out but a 'close enough' measurement is to drop the firing pin and see how close the bolt handle and reciever cam comes to touching when you lift the bolt handle to recock the bolt. There should be minimal clerance between the front edge of the bolt handle and most rearward portion of the receiver's rear bridge.

Supoosedly due to Remington changing the forging moulds which resulted in bolt handles having surfaces that did not work as well with the receiver's cam, followed by a change in process meaning the bolt handle was used to set headspace... not a good idea at all...

This is mostly gleaned from Long Rifles Inc (Chad Dixon) and his posts of Facebook and Snipers Hide.

I'm sure @gundoc would be a better person to ask about primary extractions and Remington rifles in general as I only own two and don't have experience of fixing a Remington bolt handle that has not been timed correctly (and then broken off... :psychotic: )

Just sharing what research I did before buying as I didn't want a lemon. Remington Firearms has great concepts and designs but their execution and marketing usually leaves a lot to be desired!

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My SAUM was of the RR series, I suspect it was poor to start with I think (cant be 100% sure as it was never actually fired I believe before it got rebarreled for me) and only got worse once suppliers/gunsmiths faffed around with it. Who would have thought it was so complicated to fix!
I would not buy another Rem700 of late production ever.

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Originally Posted by gundoc

For the past few years Remington rifles have suffered several quality control issues, some of which beggar belief. The problems began when the solvency of the company was at risk and many skilled workers were laid off. In recent years they have been employing unskilled/semi skilled people who simply lack the knowledge required to produce items of consistent quality. These problems are caused by management being top-heavy and trying to maximise profits by taking shortcuts with the very product that is the sole source of their income. Selling items that fail on the most basic levels is a guarantee of business failure. I wouldn't touch a current Remington.

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@gundoc and yet this seems to be the model for a lot of companies that buy for investment alone.
Then wonder why it all turns to poose.
But then I suppose they sell up and start again.
Brierlys used to be a classic for the asset stripping part of that back in the 80s

@gundoc As an aside; from what I've read, the Ruger takeover of Marlin seems to have drastically improved the rifles. It seems like they are going the extra mile with them :)

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Originally Posted by jpurdon

Hi all, looking to just get the opinion from a few forum members for this rifle/scope combo in the TradeMe link below

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketpl...5?bof=s4ksczCc

Its a 7mm-08 Remington 700 w/ Zeiss Terra 3x 3-9 (x42 maybe?). Guy is asking around $1300ish. I had previously been looking for a second hand Tikka in .270 but saw this and thought it was a reasonable deal on similar caliber. Just like to hear peoples opinion on the setup, potentially compared to a Tikka/.270.

Mainly hunting deer atm but looking to move into Tahr come Spring and keen to have a solid setup to be confident with. Hunting range would be max 400yd.

Cheers

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@jpurdon , I have a 270. After reading what you are wanting to do I wouldnt muck round, buy philipo's 6.5 prc It will do it all and you will have it for life. https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....6-5-prc-82529/

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Originally Posted by bumblefoot

@gundoc As an aside; from what I've read, the Ruger takeover of Marlin seems to have drastically improved the rifles. It seems like they are going the extra mile with them :)

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Marlin were never terribly bad anyway but I have a lot of respect for Ruger designing and manufacture. Old Bill Ruger was a clever designer who was not afraid to use modern manufacturing techniques to improve production without sacrificing performance. Their current designers suffer from the usual graduate engineer problems but the pervading climate of the company suggests that old Bill's influence is still alive and well. Ruger firearms are good value and well engineered, just needing a little bit of a touch-up to make them first-class. The vast majority of their customers would probably never appreciate the difference!

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketpl...5?bof=Jmbdz6we

Would look at this and grabbing some glass separately. This is preferred calibre and has it has a can