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Hi guys and gals,
Who here has pre-ordered a Troy PAR? What calibre did you choose and where are you getting it from?
I pre-ordered mine about 9 weeks ago from Gunsnz, the guy seems nice, but the situation of landing the order from Troy seems chaotic at best...
Im curious about your rational for buying one. A friend has had a par for several years whilst I had my ar now gone, so a while ago I thought to accept his offer and have a good go with it. We put up a jungle lane 10 targets from 10 to 100 metres at home and I ran it with my bolt action and then the par, and did some positional shooting.
I went away undecided, then sent him this "review"
Some time later we had a shoot off he had his par and I used a brand new ruger that had just been sighted in. 5 rounds prone unsupported at a 12 in gong at 100 m. The par finished 2 seconds ahead of the ruger 11 versus 13 but only achieved 2 hits against the ruger 3. The ruger was less than perfect, scratchy bolt and two difficult feeds. It proved nothing but was fun.
My reasons for acquiring one are - if I don't buy it I'll end up with nothing but Bolt actions and I like some diversity in my safes. I have loads of. 223 and no rifle for it anymore. I didn't hand in many of my AR accessories or my magazines. I love the AR ergos and general appearance.
I'm not really big on levers, and the Remington pump is expensive for something that looks like something out of the bargain bin at the warehouse with QC issues to boot. While I was a little hesitant, for the reasons above it seemed like a good choice. The alternative I considered was a Tikka T3X but I just couldn't get excited about another Bolt action... At this point I hope the Troy works out to be a good addition.
i think "gunsnz" dropped a sinker on his balls. they stop selling it now.
They're still on their website holdover, there's clearly something I'm missing here, what happened?
looks like you have missed a few, just wait and see. i believe troy should be ok. wait and see.Quote:
Originally Posted by coltace
Thanks for the explanation for your choice. One thing you might not be aware of is that the Troy's chamber is fluted to assist with extraction so if you reload funny looking cases will be the result that need full length sizing every time.
I read the Gen2 version is not so hard on cases?Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Henry
The Troy is an accurate rifle as it is free float with no gas system attached. It is fast firing from the standing position but not so much from the prone position, maybe something could be modified on them to give them an alternative straight pull lever on the side of the receiver. You can put a bipod on the front I think if you get one of those troy alpha picatinny adapters.
After what's happening with the Kriss I wouldn't be surprised if they get stopped at the border and not allowed in.
Just be aware only some ar triggers will work in a PAR. Known ones that work are triggertech, Hiperfire 3g, and ALG. The hammer must be long enough to touch the pump release at the bottom of the receiver and as the hammer release 'robs' a bit of power out of the hammer you risk light primer strikes if you use reduced power springs.Quote:
Originally Posted by coltace
Jmt triggers won't nor will timiny, I know as I offered them to my friend as upgrades for the average one in the par. Both occasionally misfired so I got them back and made more from them at a stealathon.
I don't know why they bother with the fluted chambers. My PAR cycles easily with full power loads and a standard chamber.
Yeah I heard that. Not much chance of getting a replacement barrel for it these days unless you get trueflite to make you one but they are pricey.Quote:
Originally Posted by gundoc
@gundoc, your opinion on the PAR, is it a worthy successor to the AR, all things considered?Quote:
Originally Posted by gundoc
Yes, they are a good option. Mine runs 0.5 MOA with 69 grain BTHP (chrome-lined 7" twist), slower than a semi but miles faster than a bolt and no need to move your head.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Headroom
Hopefully they don't get banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by gundoc
Just be good if there was some mod to make them easier to cycle while prone.
Am I the only guy on here who has Pre-Ordered from Gunsnz?
Hope you can get your money back, looks like they will be prohibited before long OIC incoming :oh noes:Quote:
Originally Posted by coltace
Yep, the ability to ban them by specific name is now proposed in supplemental papers for changes to the Arms Act.
Any day now....
Well thats just fucking great..... When will people realise that the OIC is the biggest abuse of power the government has available in its toolbox.
They wont. Cause most people don't care. We are on our own in this.Quote:
Originally Posted by coltace
Having spoken to Gunsnz ,the Police are saying as AR15 and AR10 mags slot in they are delaying import permits.Ie means they can hold more than 10 rounds.
There are more of these on the way. Police have re-approved them, along with Kriss Defiance 22's.