vortex generation 2 Pst

Has anyone any experience with this model
specifically the 3x15x44 mirad ffp model but the moa model experience is just as valid
The Vortex pst has from what I've read has a shaky reputation for quality although I've heard nothing about a shaky reputation for customer service and from what I've read Cs seems very good, it is just that it would be better if it apparently wasn't needed as much.

This scope ticks all the boxes for me for a short to medium range varmint scope on game of a size where a 223 bullet hitting most anywhere will cause immediate or very close to vacancy of life. soo rabbits etc out to 5-600yrds.

It would be a toss up twixt this or a Sightron Tac 2.5x17 but the 56mm reticle is huge and the scope weighs as much as a S@b PM11.so it's back to the vortex if its any good.
Anything else I shoud be looking at
could always go down the Leupy VX3 4x14 Lr route again and stick M1 turrets on it but the Vortex can be had for 900USD and works out cheaper and has the reticle I want , again if the gen 2 is any better.


What do you think?

Hey @jakewire,

I have that scope and the 5-25x50 but they are MOA FFP, beautiful and certainly a step up on the Gen I.
I had no issues at all with the 3 Gen I's I had.
I also have a Razor HD Gen I which is rather nice as well.
Drop me a PM if you want to know more... Cheers Craig

I have the Sightron S-TAC 2.5-17.5x56 that you mentioned.
Use it on my AR15 on hares out to 400m (best shot yet)
Absolute dynamite. Tracks perfectly, and simply unbelievable when used with a spotlight. Bright and clear and BLAMMO the bunny be gone.

Had my eye on those for a while now too

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Thanks Craig and Gerbs.
I must admit the Sightron was the one I initially had my eye on but it's 300SUD dearer and it's so big, wish the reticle was 50m [ haven't seen one in the flesh just spec's ].

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Originally Posted by jakewire

Thanks Craig and Gerbs.
I must admit the Sightron was the one I initially had my eye on but it's 300SUD dearer and it's so big, wish the reticle was 50m [ haven't seen one in the flesh just spec's ].

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What about the sightron s3 they are awsome. higher mag range though

Yes looked at that one as well Tim
but prefer the turrets on the vortex and tac, though I think you can swap out some of the S111 turrets to the uncovered ones , they advertise them on the web sight.
I probably dpon't need the higher may range really though I admit there have been times when I would have liked more than the 12x I currently have .

Hey @jakewire, I'm home on the 30th, if you're Auckland based or Tauranga, more than welcome to view them...

Cheers mate down south, though thanks anyway.
Can't find too much wrong with that Vortex x15 ffp on the www . might take the plunge there, always a hard decision as you second guess yourself all the way.

You should check these out Bushnell LRHSi 4.5-18×44 ,FFP, zero stop, illuminated, 24 mils adjustment, made in Japan -same factory as Nightforce, great glass highly recommend.
A definite step up from Gen 2 PST at least as comparable to razor Gen 1.
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I'll check them out VTF thanks, any idea of a price on them?

I paid 1800 from hamils , should get them well cheaper ex overseas . I couldn't be arsed waiting so went local.

Thee is also this in the mix as well
It's just getting harder.
https://www.leupold.com/scopes/rifle...rp-6-5-20x50mm

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Originally Posted by von tempsky fan

I paid 1800 from hamils , should get them well cheaper ex overseas . I couldn't be arsed waiting so went local.

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cheers.

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Originally Posted by jakewire

Thee is also this in the mix as well
It's just getting harder.
https://www.leupold.com/scopes/rifle...rp-6-5-20x50mm

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Wouldn't waste ya hard earned dollars on one of those mate, I brought one to put on the Edge, ticked all the boxes apart from the ridiculously tall elevation turret ( seems to be a stupid trend at the mo ) just wasn't up to mine or your standard.

Was a very nice scope, TMOA is a great reticle with good glass plus a good weight & size. But the clicks were terrible & mushy worse than a 200 Chinese piece of shit and had farken awful over travel, I was very disappointed considering that it's called a LRP ( long range precision ) really should stand for "long range poo's" I thought leupold were a bit more clued up. Ended up taking it back & was told by the importers that's how they are :x_x:

Excellent philipo
I like to get your unfettered thoroughly honest opinion.:)

I was gonna suggest the Leupold LRP but if it's that shit, what about one of these?

Have u considered Sightron STAC 3-16x44 - Reloaders have them for about $850

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I was gonna suggest the Leupold LRP but if it's that shit, what about one of these?

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Only 3.3 inches eye relief other than that it looks all good.

Forgot to mention that I ended up buying a NF SHV 5-20 x 56 with dial-able top turret & very impressed with it, great value for money :cool:

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Originally Posted by Double Shot

Hey @jakewire,

I have that scope and the 5-25x50 but they are MOA FFP, beautiful and certainly a step up on the Gen I.
I had no issues at all with the 3 Gen I's I had.
I also have a Razor HD Gen I which is rather nice as well.
Drop me a PM if you want to know more... Cheers Craig

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@Double Shot in your eyes what ways are they better than the Gen 1? I've used a few Gen 1s and a HST and whilst the turrets were great, the glass is not.
Is the glass quite a bit step up? Are the new turrets just as good/better than the old ones?
How does the Gen 2 compare to the Razor Gen 1?

I have heard mutterings that the glass is the same as or equivalent to the Gen 1 Razors. They certainly look like an improvement over the first PST's.

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Originally Posted by Beetroot

@Double Shot in your eyes what ways are they better than the Gen 1? I've used a few Gen 1s and a HST and whilst the turrets were great, the glass is not.
Is the glass quite a bit step up? Are the new turrets just as good/better than the old ones?
How does the Gen 2 compare to the Razor Gen 1?

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Hey @Beetroot, to answer your questions...

The glass is certainly a step up, myself I really liked my Gen I's but these are better. The glass is Razor HD Gen 1 Quality if not better (this of course comes down to individuals eyes, I've used some scopes that are quality but my eyes hated them)
The turrets are far better, lower for one, bigger, more precise a much nicer system and use the Razor Zero Stop.
There are parts of both the Gen I/Gen II Razor in the PST Gen II, I think Vortex have lifted their game on these.
Really need to see for yourself and form your own opinion.
More than happy for you to view them mate if no shop has them near you. PM me.
Moving to Tauranga in the coming weeks.

Of course there'll always be haters but that's cool, I'm impressed and think they are worth the money.

Cheers C

The new Nikon Black 1000 looks a good scope.

I've always been impressed by the glass and turrets on my previous Nikon scopes.

These black scopes look a nice bit of kit for the medium priced long range scope.

I have a Viper PST Gen 1, Viper HS, and a Diamondback and like them all. A few people give the Vortex a bad rap but for there price and warranty( if needed) they are good value for money. I like what people are saying about the Gen 2 PST sounds as if they are better again than the older models.

Maybe one of these?

https://www.natchezss.com/weaver-tac...er_Job%2314142

Could be worth a look at that price Nor west, heavyish but..... and wish I could find reticle subtentions somewhere.

@SlimySquirrel they are not exporting the nikon black series. Its a usa only product. It was my first choice now looking at a 5-25 pstII.

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Originally Posted by jakewire

Yes looked at that one as well Tim
but prefer the turrets on the vortex and tac, though I think you can swap out some of the S111 turrets to the uncovered ones , they advertise them on the web sight.
I probably dpon't need the higher may range really though I admit there have been times when I would have liked more than the 12x I currently have .

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Fair enough each to there own a. The ones at deadeye dick are uncovered. me mates ones are all uncovered. nice glass to.

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Originally Posted by jakewire

Could be worth a look at that price Nor west, heavyish but..... and wish I could find reticle subtentions somewhere.

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