Thread: WE LOST

Originally Posted by csmiffy

Using the knights of ni logic here has anyone noticed that there seems to a lot of English cops both here and in aussie? In senior positions also.
English cops don't like firearms much, aussie cops don't like firearms much. Guns bad-if guns bad in OZ and England then they must be bad here too.
Betcha between the two our officials get a bit of verbal advice from the trench's from these helpful individuals on how evil these things are and how much better it is in their homelands when they are regulated heavily.
But I digress...carry on.

Bit like whats happening with local councils, full of similar people

And health boards.

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Originally Posted by csmiffy

Betcha between the two our officials get a bit of verbal advice from the trench's from these helpful individuals on how evil these things are and how much better it is in their homelands when they are regulated heavily.

Of course thats not what the gun crime data says, but they don't seem to worry about that. Can't let facts get in the way of a good story can you!

Originally Posted by GDMP

I have never agreed with having foreign born individuals in such jobs,for this very reason.They bring their prejudices from their own societies with them.....which is often very bad for OUR society and ends up undermining what we have in this country.

Only citizens snd no dual citizenship should be permitted in these positions and government

I was born in nz but have dual nz/British citizenship. And i know there is lots more in same situation as me due to themass migration in the 60s. Pusging it a bit far there.

Originally Posted by Konev

I was born in nz but have dual nz/British citizenship. And i know there is lots more in same situation as me due to themass migration in the 60s. Pusging it a bit far there.

Not really. If your committed to NZ why bother with British citizenship. Poms turned their backs to us in the 70's and even more recently.
If pommy expats are as great as they yabber on about why did the cunts have to go halfway round the world to get a job?

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Originally Posted by Steve123

Not really. If your committed to NZ why bother with British citizenship. Poms turned their backs to us in the 70's and even more recently.

If pommy expats are as great as they yabber on about why did the cunts have to go halfway round the world to get a job?

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You're acting a bit, shall we say, provincial, Steve123, but I take it you're just throwing in some thoughts.

You can do things with a British passport you can't with a NZ passport, and vice versa. NZ consulates for example can be quite weak, if they are even there, so if you travel certain places you are better traveling on a UK passport. Three passports is even better for options.

If you never travel, you don't even need one passport.

As for being "committed to NZ" what does that mean anyway? Has it something to do with more than rugby?

Originally Posted by Cordite

You're acting a bit, shall we say, provincial, Steve123, but I take it you're just throwing in some thoughts.

You can do things with a British passport you can't with a NZ passport, and vice versa. NZ consulates for example can be quite weak, if they are even there, so if you travel certain places you are better traveling on a UK passport. Three passports is even better for options.

If you never travel, you don't even need one passport.

As for being "committed to NZ" what does that mean anyway? Has it something to do with more than rugby?

In NZ we treat people with residency the same as citizens. I don't think we should. Just my opinion

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Not quite the same, though I get it that you have a point there.

Residents, non-citizens, can't stand for council or parliament. Not sure if they can serve in armed forces or police.

Residents can vote though, maybe fair as they pay tax.

Think of the advantage though in giving residency vs citizenship - misbehave and... off you go, back to the hellhole you were born in.

But back to Chris Cahill, it is useful to know that London, UK may be at least as bad, if not worse than New York, USA for homicides now.

and in the usa its not common to have acid thrown at you

Originally Posted by Steve123

In NZ we treat people with residency the same as citizens. I don't think we should. Just my opinion

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After living in aussie for 10 years in that circumstance I agree with you. Within 3 years an aussie in NZ can get the dole, citizenship and the right to vote.
A kiwi in aussie has to wait 10 years before applying for citizenship. My lad was there with us and had an attempt to join the aussie military. Sorry mate you aint a citizen. If there weren't enough aussie applying he may've been considered otherwise it was a no. We moved there when he was 10.

Question is whether NZ should set its standards for how it treats people from what people do overseas. Clearly @csmiffy you feel the Aussies treat people like shit, so shall New Zealanders aspire to be like them?

NZ would never have been first to let women vote if it was not guided by wanting to do what was right, not just take the lead from others.

Originally Posted by Cordite

Question is whether NZ should set its standards for how it treats people from what people do overseas. Clearly @csmiffy you feel the Aussies treat people like shit, so shall New Zealanders aspire to be like them?

NZ would never have been first to let women vote if it was not guided by wanting to do what was right, not just take the lead from others.

Nope I don't necessarily feel they treat people like shit. I think they treat kiwis like shit considering we treat their citizens better.
Johnny Howard changed our status their years ago to prevent an easy back door though NZ to their country via our citizenship and they are sticking to.
Aussie does pay way better when its going well though. They do that better than here that's for sure