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    WE LOST

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    WE LOST.

    Unfortunately the Auckland District Court judge ruled that an MSSA with a stock that collapses under 762mm is a pistol.

    I hope to make the transcript of the judges ruling available over at Firearm Owners United NZ later today.

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    A gun which can shoot and is below 762mm length is a pistol. Waste of money and court time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordite View Post
    A gun which can shoot and is below 762mm length is a pistol. Waste of money and court time?
    not when for a number of years the cops told us(and let us import) E cat guns could be under that length when folded. Nothing to do with this has anything to do with if the gun can shoot in its shorter state
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    Quote Originally Posted by res View Post
    not when for a number of years the cops told us(and let us import) E cat guns could be under that length when folded. Nothing to do with this has anything to do with if the gun can shoot in its shorter state
    That would be a dodgy ruling, considering that most bolt guns can be fired with the stock removed
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    I cant think of one that cant be fired without the stock if you realy wanted to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Henry View Post
    I cant think of one that cant be fired without the stock if you realy wanted to.
    Same applies for a lot of semi auto's, 22s in particular.

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    so if i was to remove a stock off my 10/22 for re oiling i'm now an illegal pistol owner ? i usually put a coat of oil on all my wood stocks once a year or so
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    Quote Originally Posted by gonetropo View Post
    so if i was to remove a stock off my 10/22 for re oiling i'm now an illegal pistol owner ? i usually put a coat of oil on all my wood stocks once a year or so
    I'd say yes if you took it out of the same room as the stock

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    Reducing it to parts by dissembling your 10/22 it doesnt count. But constructing it to be under 762mm and using it that way counts. Intentions count.

    Who thought trying to take this idea to court was a worthy idea? The law is pretty clear. How could the court rule otherwise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlsen Highway View Post
    Reducing it to parts by dissembling your 10/22 it doesnt count. But constructing it to be under 762mm and using it that way counts. Intentions count.

    Who thought trying to take this idea to court was a worthy idea? The law is pretty clear. How could the court rule otherwise?
    Because police released a policy statement saying that MSSA's are measure with the stock open. Then they reversed this policy, after a lot of guns had been put on E cat.

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    Don’t forget the NZPHQ fuckery around measuring OAL to the rifling as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogmatix View Post
    Don’t forget the NZPHQ fuckery around measuring OAL to the rifling as well.
    So end of butstock to end of rifling? Even if a suppressor is permanently attached?

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    End of rifling at which end
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis View Post
    That would be a dodgy ruling, considering that most bolt guns can be fired with the stock removed
    Yes it's going to cause all sorts of headaches. I think the decision has been made by someone without a full enough understanding of firearms and it needs to be appealed

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogmatix View Post
    Don’t forget the NZPHQ fuckery around measuring OAL to the rifling as well.
    Wow that made me go straight out and check !
    I'm only just legal on one rifle by 10mm

 

 

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