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the last coupple of years a lot if members on here built 6.5x47L rifles.... but now all those members seem to be selling up and getting out of the cal
whats the reasons behind this? is it to expencive to run or the performance not as good as everyone was raveing about etc etc
interested to know as its one if the 3 or 4 if been looking at for a possable switch
Fashions change
6.5x55 is better
Ive never had a 6.5x47L, i do have a 260 rem, and from what i can see, if you already have a 260 rem i cant really see any great benefit in going to a 6.5x47L, apart from the case looks cool :ORLY:
I think initially guys were very impressed by the performance talked about on the internet in a US shooting competitions.
But they have fairly long barrels, not the 18-20" Kiwi Hunting barrels which really robs their performance with the heavier projectiles.
Back then Lapua 260 brass wasn't around so I guess guys thought that was a good reason to go to 6.5x47
Also the 260 gets pretty long for a SA magazine with the 140s seated out to get the most from the case.
Of course I could be completely wrong :)
i load muz's ammo for him and I think the main reason for him considering changing from 260 is the fact that you have to seat the bullets so deep like stupid deep to fit them in the mag his abolt unless you use short stubbie bricks something like a 6.5creedmoor or 6.5x47 (they are the two he's mentioned to me) are shorter case and there fore more room for a decent bullet upfront
I think he has other reasons aswell though
I have had 2 6.5x47. 1 was a Barnard 07 with a 28" barrel, the other a lightweight model 7. The Barnard in particular was awesomely accurate and they fitted easily into the 2.8" mags. I don't have 1 now, but selling them had nothing to do with getting out of the round. The fact that blaser now chambers the round in the R8 has me tempted to get another. If I didn't already have a 6XC and 6.5 x 55 that is...
Only reason I changed was cos I bought a lighter factory rifle and Sako don't chamber 6.5x47L. It works well including out of short barrels and I would consider it when I have to replace my .260 barrel because it fits the mag a little better than .260 with long 140s
I's guess folk liked that you could get Lapua brass for it and that it was new and sexy.
Now that you can get 260 Lapua brass and get a bit more performance out of a similar cartridge and it comes in many factory rifles, there is less appeal for it.
I have no idea what the popularity is like in the US but you have 4 cartridges that do more or less the same thing (6.5x55, 260Rem, 6.5x47, 6.5 Creedmore), I can see one or more dying off and it's likely to be the ones with the least factory backing.
creedmore and x47 seem to go better in short magazines, so say the yanks which also claim short actions are heavier than long actions, maybe but fuck all in reality.
x47 uses a small primer pocket so arguably stronger case head
I think the question is why do you want the calibre
Don't worry about the small primer if you want performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by scoped
The standard size magnum primer gave me more performance than any of the smaller ones when looking for velocity in a long barrel 7-08 & standard length 308.
The small primer may give better consistency as lower velocities ?
For me if I was to go down the 6.5mm case road I would go for the 260, more so now that Lapua make brass for it. The 6.5x47L did look good a few years back when the guys in the USA were winning comps and talking them up and probably is ok for shot targets, but flinging 47L cases into the scrub can be rather expensive in NZ.
I was under the impression that the advantage of the small primer was that the base of the case had more brass due to the nsmaller primer and therefore was less likely to stretch and allow higher pressures...but as the wife says I'm usually wrong!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
I went with the 6.5 creedmoor in a F-class/ long range rig. First because the round was new and sexy, second because nobody had one at the time and third because 260lapua case were not available at the time.
I still have it, still love it, although I don't take her out as often as I should:-)
Because everyone realized that a 308 does the same thing? :thumbsup:
Whats this 308, is it a new wildcat , never heard of it before
Because the people that were into it were gun-botherers, and they did it and then found that all it did was shoot bullets, and burn powder, just like every other cartridge, and nothing got hit unless it got aimed properly, just like anything else. Now they are doing it with something else, that will also be 'better'. And then we will have to listen to them pontificating about that for a while.
I'm not sure what the moral of that story is.
Gimp got out of it because his one didn't shoot for crap I heard...
Where the hell did you hear that? (it's entirely incorrect)Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlsen Highway
Fixed the thread title. It was annoying me.
Ha! I remember it being Tim who told meQuote:
Originally Posted by gimp
I had a bad gunsmithing experience in approx 2009 that was entirely unrelated to the cartridge, replacement barrel was extremely precise
No, it was the cartridge...:)
A non-representative group of 5 shots at 100m
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ps8iabfeo9.jpg
Missed the dot
What were the representative groups like gimp?
But thats the thing CH. Gun botherers have very poor memories because they turn over rifles so quickly, so when they are called to account they have to urgently construct justification stories for their own silliness.
They are simply people who are not happy in their own skin, so keep trying new and unusual ways of hitting a piece of paper to feel some sort of comfort. But it never works for long.
:D
Slightly larger, I'm a poor shot
Pffft
i think i had gimps 6.5x47 it shot 30 - 40 mm groups at 400mt consistently with 130 bergers
The 6.5x47 Lapua was designed for shooting 300 metre prone and 3P matches the same as the 6mmBR Norma, because they are so accurate the wacky accuracy nuts who think they need 1/4" MOA rifles to kill deer
decided they had to have one, after shooting a few deer they found out that they are no better than any other medium 6.5 mm at killing deer so they have moved on looking for the next magic cartridge
Agree with Carlsen Highway, this is a bit like the recent .338 (LM and Edge) thing.
Plus a few years back, (pre MSSA debacle), it was the semi Norinco M305 that everyone had to have... until people realised how cr*p they were.
There are certainly a few decent M305s out there though.
No, not mine, I think that one originally belonged to forum member "Sidney" ? Mine was just recently sold to someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by buzzman
e: as above selling the rifle was entirely unrelated to the cartridge, my .260 will likely end up a 6.5x47L when I shoot out the factory barrel, since a factory Sako rebarrel is impossible, and I had one of the first x47 rifles in NZ, wasn't following much of a trend at the time, it's just a good cartridge.
yeah that was mine... being a gun botherer I only sold it to get a Blaser... never would have othertwise... it was superb..
nowt much tween 6.5x47, 260 Rem, 6.5x55, 6.5 Creedmore..., if you have one you don't need another
the 47 gets a little more pressure because of case construction (small primer) which almost makes up the difference on the larger capacity rounds.
I went to 6.5x55 in the Blaser, which works just as well...
the 47 is probably the best choice overall in a conventional bolt action... short action, excellent feeding, small primer and more COAL to work with for long pills.. brass is cheaper now, but only available in Lapua
now that Blaser are making the 47 barrels I would have done that, but having the 55 makes it unnecessary..
I still have mine & am happy with it.
They are all good cartridges.
In a modern rifle, how fast can you push a 6.5x55? Would it not be the fastest in speed potentially out of all of them?
Dunno if a standard x55 would be the fastest out of all of them.
I comfortably get 3020 out of my .260 improved with 129-130 weight bullets and get say 8-9 turns out of the brass.
2950 with 140 Amax and berger but never really went with that weight bullet.
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I dont want to wade in when i dont have one but dont read to much into it ! We all know the 303 Brit has shot every thing in NZ from Moose in Dusky - rabbits on farmland. The truth is most of us need ( sorry, want ) something better,different,faster,slower,shit just something else.
I shot a mates 6.5x47 on rabbits once (twice) one at 365yds and one at 505yds, both one shot splats ! I stopped shooting before i missed and proved it was a far better shooter than i was
It really depends on the bullet weights you want to shoot. 6.5x47 lap is fine with 120 - 130 gr bullets, but really struggles to push 140 grainers or heavier to a decently velocity especially if you are running an short barrel. The creedmore, 260 or 6.5/284 are better with heavier bullets.
Nope it's fine with 140s and almost identical to .260/6.5CMQuote:
Originally Posted by Kaimai Views