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Got a 3 -10 weaver gs on this 243 M70 feeatherweight.
As you can see the objective bell is hard up against the rings and I need more eye relief to get a good sight picture.
The rings are fine could be lighter. What I would like to know from you gentleman is: 1. What kind of ring base set up are they? 2. Can they be reversed so the back one is at the front which will give me more room to slide the scope forward enough. To me, it looks like the back one should be on the front?
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dont know bud but thats just plain ugly way for them to be mounted...but unless you are dislectic....you can slide scope miles forwards but cant slide it back anymore
The short loopy M8 on my m70 243 suffers the same but only just. Never did anything about it but got a different scope to go on soon so that way fix it
Pretty standard design, Redfield/Burris and others. Possibly leupold in your case
For a start the rear base with the side adjustment screws is in the right place ie the rear. That is there to get the scope pretty close before you start using the scope adjustments.
I would suggest it looks it should be reversed so the 2 side screws are at the rear.
You have several options
You can get rings that have an offset bottom for just the purpose you require.
Or you get a completely different ring and base set
Correct. I reckon they look ugly. Maybe dyslexic.lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
Need to slide the scope back to what I'm after.
What would be better functional ring base option. Happy to change them out. Was thinking Talley or weaver bases. Open to suggestions team. Great wee gun. 243 is growing on me.
Is that where you want it for sight picture?
I would prolly turn the rear ring around the other way, then if nothing else the lock screws will be on the same side.
Comes down to price and strength.
There are better designs out there now.
See if you can find an offset ring set and see what they are worth.
Talley are certainly worth a look
Otherwise you could co Pic or weaver style one piece but I'm not really afan on something like that.
If it was a one piece maybe a Burris with zee rings
Or a generic M70 one piece base with slots and standard pic rings...
Hi, to answer your questions - 1. The ring base set is called the leupold standard rings and bases. They are a reliable set up as the front ring has a dovetail that rotates into a recess that provides a rock solid attachment point. On a 24flea they are just fine. No, you cannot reverse the front to rear because the receiver at the front is much higher than the rear and they are specifically designed to be installed the way they are. However, I recall that Leupold make an extended front base that you could reverse so it faces toward your face giving you exactly what you need. It will impinge on the loading port but that's life. Here's the link. Cheers -https://www.leupold.com/std-winchester-70-rvf-r-2-pc-gloss
Look more like Millet rings than Leupold. Can’t move the back base to the front as noted earlier - different heights. You would be able to reverse the front one and back one (I.e. remove the 2 screws and turn each base 180 degrees) - depending on the where the holes are drilled in the receiver and base that may give you a few more mm to move the scope.
It looks like theres plenty of room to move the scope forward for more eye relief with set up you have pictured, like about 40mm. The Weaver GS was designed with plenty of lee way for mounting on long actions.
Ive had a set like these on my 308 Mod 70. Millets. Worked great for hunting, but I swapped them out with a pic rail once I started using the gun for presision shooting.
weaver bases all day long....weaver rings on top and thats it,job done.Quote:
Originally Posted by GSP HUNTER
if you cant find some,I will pull the set off my old gal for you.....
Now are we all talking the same lingo here? You need more eye relief (i.e. scope forwards) which it looks like will work with your setup - or less eye relief (scope moving rearwards) which won't work on your setup?
So he's asked for more eye relief but he actually needs less - that was why I asked just to make sure. So the possible solutions to this issue - if wanting to keep the bases and rings, need a longer tubed scope not a compact. If wanting to keep the scope, new base(s) and rings are needed - and the options there are a one-piece weaver or pic base or split weaver bases with weaver or pic rings, or increasing in price a propriety design that allows the scope to be positioned further back. The issue is the front base and ring are basically in that position, and unless you want to get funky with a mill/drill that setup is doing as much as it will.
They're not std leupold/redfield bases, they're std front and reversable rear. To move scope back as he wants? ( theres plenty of room to move scope foreward to get more eye relief ) he needs to aquire a reversable front base. Asia Imports used to carry the various bases.
That scope set out makes both my wenis's ache.
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@MCCPRO. dunno about your wenis's but i've got a set of Leupold's on my .308 M70 that have been on there for 35 years along with a Leupold M8 4x scope and have never had a problem with them. And I use my gear hard, not like the majority of safe queens that seem to be prevalent these days.
@woods223 Yeah I get ya. Have to admit I do have a couple (Cough cough) safe queens.
But with the rear of a scope cantilevered out like that a tiny knock can make a good day into a shocker.
Ive had to set up some weird mounts before just to get it on a gun. But have also dropped and fallen on mounts
more than I would like to admit.
Hey GSP. Your original question upon second reading seems a little ambiguous. If you want to slide the scope forward away from your eye? If so what is to stop you from loosening the ring screws and sliding the scope forward? If further back, buy the set with a front base that looks like your current rear base and face it rearwards, and use the rear base that looks like your front base now. This will give you the clearance needed to move back. These rings and bases are known as Leupold STD rings. Whether they have an extended front or rear - RVR or RVF - can be seen on the leupold website under 2 piece scope bases.you will find them as STD rings and bases. In any event, there is a solution, further forward or further back. Cheers
Correct. Probably easnt entirely clear. Need to move the scope back. CheersQuote:
Originally Posted by Husky1600#2
Options look to be
1. Flip the back rings around and use the longer scope. Bushy elite
2. Weaver bases and clips
3. Talleys ( anyone got a low set lying around?)
4. Leupy std rings bases.
Appreciate all your input. Thank you.
@GSP HUNTER. Here's a couple of pictures that might help. M70 with reversable front and rear bases, back from when I had a Burris 2-7 mini scope on rifle for a trial.Alternatively you could use an extended front ring of the same height as original.
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I have the same issue on my 223, I haven't done anything about it yet, I was thinking a picatinny rail and rings might work
you got this sorted yet mate????
Picatinny rail and rings work but makes reloading slower in a situation like culling a mob of goats, like if you tried to top load through a tikka type ejection port. Not that high volume shots are required all the time. Rail and scope can end up with higher line of sight if you can’t use/get low rings.
