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Thread: DAY SCOPE VERSES NIGHT SCOPE.

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    DAY SCOPE VERSES NIGHT SCOPE.

    A work mate i use to know a few yrs ago ask me if i wanted to go hunting last Saturday evening,hmm ok.He just brought a thermo scope and monoculars.Woow this will be interesting.I use to own thermo monoculars for 2 yrs then sold them,still got deer and i got 80% of the origional purchase price back.
    So met up with John about 9pm and watched over a small valley with lots of bush edges near a river.Quiet a remote area so chances of seeing a deer was good.About 9.40pm it was getting dark and John had spotted a couple of deer in the distance,looked like yearlings feeding,walking feeding,looking around.He passed me his monuculars,deer glowed up like glow bugs,while he looked thru his new thermo scope.I put down his monoculars and picked up my rifle with the vixen scope on it.I could see the deer clear as.Deer were about 150yds away,i said il take left,you take right.We lined them up,rifles on packs.Deer still feeding and a light nor west breeze blowing our faces.John was getting a clear picture thru his scope and all excited about shooting his 1st deer.I said ready when you are,he pulled the trigger,1/2 second later i fired,wack i got a perfect hit,down the rear of sholder crease.Other deer trotted away wtf,he said he shouldv dropped his deer.Something wrong with his 7k scope.Oh well at least we got some meat.So we decided to stay longer,it was a warm night and he wanted to shoot something.I brought a extra jacket so was quiet happy rapped up in the broom and tussock a bit.Got up now and then and looked thru his monoculars,seen nothing.Well about 2am i was half asleep he came over to me,said theres a big stag out there,heres my monoculars.About 100yds away,feeding and looking around,lucky the breeze was still in our faces caus stag put his nose high in the air a few times trying to smell us out.John had his rifle line up on him square on the sholders.I could see him clear as,he was a big stag with high racks.John squeezed off the trigger.Stag run away,stopped looked around,could not see us,unbelievable,John fired another shot.Stag ran for his life into the bush.John was so disappointed.he never shot a deer in the 6 yrs he s been hunting,he only hunts about twice a year.
    So as the sun rose,no more deer seen,we got back to the truck,later on we drove passed a small tarn with a few tussock lumps in it.I said lets stop and try yr scope out.He aim at one tussock lump about 50yds way,fired,well bugger me the shot splashed about 1.5mtrs to the left.I said you better sort that scope out or you waisting a lot of money.And he s got a burris eliminator sitting in the box at home.Well thats hunting,sometimes i reckn you better off with the basic gear for hunting first instead of buying flash stuff you cant operate or find it hard to set up.
    Well we went our seperate way with half a deer each,that was shot with the help of my $375 vixen scope.John was happy to take something home,even tho he missed a big stag.The stag will look nice thru my scope one day in the early morning light.
    Boarders closed, i bugger all to do,might have to go hunting befor xmas day.Gota stock up the freezer with no tourist money coming thru.
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    Sounds like he needs someone to show how to sight in his Thermal
    What model is it ?
    Maybe its loose on the rail ?
    They are easy as to sight in (not 1/2 inch grouping but very easy 2" or less) all in 1 shot

    Another 2 or 3 to make sure its not moving and your away.
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    Its very secure on rail.They are not hard to zero.Hard to practice shooting and zeroing it living in the big city tho.He will have to loan it to me i recken.Id hate to break it tho,lols.Nice bit of kit.Pulsar XQ50 trail,that sound right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trout View Post
    Its very secure on rail.They are not hard to zero.Hard to practice shooting and zeroing it living in the big city tho.He will have to loan it to me i recken.Id hate to break it tho,lols.Nice bit of kit.Pulsar XQ50 trail,that sound right.
    What big city is he in?

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    Interesting. I went through the same debate myself about a year ago. Buy a good day scope or part with big money for a thermal scope. The wife even gave her blessing to get a thermal scope but I decided to go with a larger day scope.
    I purchased a 50mm Konus Pro with an illuminated reticle for $279. It has worked really well and I have been able to see and shoot deer late into the night.

    Then I bought another rifle which had a Nikon Monarch on it. I thought, good scope....definitely more expensive than my Konus so went with that. As it turned out as a day scope it was quite brilliant.....as a low light or night scope it was pretty useless.

    So I put down $1200 and bought a 50mm Vixen with illuminated reticle as they had good reviews for being good scopes at night. It is brilliantly clear during the day....I have never had a scope like it. At low light and at night it is also good, though I have to say, not so good that I am entirely satisfied at the nearly $1000 difference that I paid over and above the Konus.

    Anyway, long story short, I will not invest in thermal unless my need is so pressing that I must have vision at anytime of the night....a good day scope with illuminated reticle and good low light properties will suffice most people in most situations.

    Also, the likes of Konus scopes are often scoffed at by big dollar 'Scope Aficionado' and yet they can often do the job close to as well for a fraction of the cost.

    My thoughts at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trout View Post
    Its very secure on rail.They are not hard to zero.Hard to practice shooting and zeroing it living in the big city tho.He will have to loan it to me i recken.Id hate to break it tho,lols.Nice bit of kit.Pulsar XQ50 trail,that sound right.
    Trail Pulsar yes
    They do XQ and XP in 38 or 50

    I can bore sight a thermal to hit inside 6"
    So God only knows what he has done wrong
    Maybe if he has an attached Rail on a Dovetail - that can cause issues out past a short sighting in job
    Had that issue on my Baikal and had to give up on it (without Gunsmithing a rail onto her)

    Thermal scopes are a luxury unless you are in a commercial operation
    But they are nice Toys - I use mine a lot but hardly ever pull the trigger
    Just enjoy watching
    Yesterday at 5am - had a Fawn run down my headlight and slam straight into the front of my Quad - so got my act together and turned off lights and watched it with said Thermal - trying to find Mum again who had obviously leapt off the track before I rounded the corner and Fawn was too young to know the ropes and keep up.

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    Spoke to John late last nigth,he s coming down my way for a couple days.First check the rail,fixing to rail for scope and secure.Then we will take it out to our range in the evening.Zero it in at 50yds,then try at a 100yds,should be a touch higher at a hundy with a 50yds zero.That will give the 270 a point n shoot to 220yds ??.Far enough at night.
    Ping off a few small rabbits at about a 100yards.Then a couple of roos.
    Then il tell him not to touch the setting buttons again,write down the xy co ordinates, just be carefull where you are using it or you could loose it.Thanks for yr info guys,il put up a couple of pics of results sometime in next month.

 

 

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