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    Good news on the Law and Order Committee Recommendations

    https://kiwigunblog.wordpress.com/20...commendations/

    Cheers to everyone who battled this.
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    Wow, maybe it was worth the effort to hopefully influence her decision by individually communicating our concerns. Numbers game.

    Like this one, if it goes thru, but will they continue to ignore the process? “I’m also proposing a Ministerial direction to the Police to require consultation with the firearms community when considering changes to the Arms Act and the interpretation of it."

    The BOSS has spoken.
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    Bloody awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well done to everyone that put in their submissions!
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    seems like good news, what was point 7 again?

    '' Implement firearm prohibition orders '' this sounds a little vague...

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    great to see common sense prevail .... and an ability to see thru the smokescreen from police HQ & the antigun lobby has been called out for what it is. B...S

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    Good on ya Paula

    Glad to see you considered all the submissions from our law abiding firearms owners community.

    However its Time for said community to be even more vigilant, lest our rights are removed from us by stealth.

    Still don't see anything in the accepted recommendations that will dissuade Criminals for aquiring firearms illegally, apart from clarifying Gang Members and prospects are not to be considered "fit and proper".

    Would this now mean that if your a criminal but not a Gang member or a prospect then could you still be considered as "fit and proper"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 223nut View Post
    seems like good news, what was point 7 again?

    '' Implement firearm prohibition orders '' this sounds a little vague...
    I was wondering the same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boaraxa View Post
    I was wondering the same thing
    They do need something along those lines. It is akin to not allowing a drunk driver to continue driving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetman View Post
    They do need something along those lines. It is akin to not allowing a drunk driver to continue driving.
    AFAIK the current rule is a bit like allowing a drunk driver to continue driving as long as they have a licenced driver sitting beside them, so if its relating to that its probably reasonable enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadgetman View Post
    They do need something along those lines. It is akin to not allowing a drunk driver to continue driving.
    well why cant they just say that.... then they wouldnt need half a dozen people to translate and write the damn thing!

    i can see sense in this, if you lose your firearms license there should be a stand down period (covered) and you cant go out next weekend with your mate 2 rifles and shot under his licence...
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    It seems to Police Asociation are not too happy with Paula's decision.

    Police Association astounded at rejection of firearms controls | Voxy.co.nz

    Cheers
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    "The Association would consider family violence or lack of secure storage to be potential red flags when it comes to the right to have guns", Mr Cahill said.

    Haha, Cahill just said having guns is a right, contrary to his previous bleatings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stretch View Post
    "The Association would consider family violence or lack of secure storage to be potential red flags when it comes to the right to have guns", Mr Cahill said.

    Haha, Cahill just said having guns is a right, contrary to his previous bleatings.
    I noticed that too, however it may have been the reporter that put that line in and not actually said by Cry Baby Cahill.

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    If it is in quotes he will have said it, or else the reporter will get a kick in the nads by their editor.

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    The Minister’s concern about ‘over the top’ rules and restrictions on hunters and shooters ignores the reality that New Zealand is awash with firearms and the majority of them are stolen," he said.

    Really ?? I would just love to see him qualify this comment
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