Thread: 2005ish GrandCherokee vs 2007ish Ford Territory

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

We bought a territory a couple years back when we were shifting as we needed an extra tow vehicle. Its a very nice vehicle to drive, drives like its on rails. But, it is the most gas guzling-est thing Ive come across in my life. We have still got it as its still a handy extra tow wagon and staff use it to travel from home to the dairy shed but I need to save up for 6 months first every time we need to take it somewhere. Its as if someone took an XR6 driveline, added 4wd, and put it in a 4 tonne chassis....oh, wait...

I remember telling you this before you brought one
we had a territory and as Ryan said great car but fuck me it used half a tank to town.

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And here's me with a pre 2000 Patrol with 4.2Turbo D @ 10L/100km, 15L when towing the horsefloat. And about to tick over 500,000km. Just goes and goes. And a BIG step up in comfort etc from the GQ SAF's

Originally Posted by XR500

And here's me with a pre 2000 Patrol with 4.2Turbo D @ 10L/100km, 15L when towing the horsefloat. And about to tick over 500,000km. Just goes and goes. And a BIG step up in comfort etc from the GQ SAF's

Iv got the same mate,had nearly 16yrs,just ticking over 542000ks,never touched the motor.Replaced alternator and a now a new set of batterys.Doesnt burn oil,just keeps on trucking.

I'm considering selling my totally faithful Nissan Regulus 3.2 diesel, as all the rumours floating around are worrying. Had a VTNZ guy tell me last WOF to get rid of it, as soon they "won't be allowed on the road" with this stupid govt wanting all pre 2000 cars off the road, especially dirty "old tech" diesels. If they don't get them off the road, they are thinking of making them excessively expensive to register etc, so like a "forced dumping" is what he told me.
TBH the only wagon I have considered is a Highlander petrol. My Regulus has the hi-lo, diff lock etc etc and it has been places a goat would think twice about. Gets to see skidder duty with tree felling on farms and cart firewood round..never misses a beat and still looks really tidy.
Most newer 4wds are plastic fantastics IMHO, Territory is a higher Falcon with AWD, and the earlier Territories loved dumping antifreeze through the trans, ruining it, and even the Highlanders I think may only be AWD too? And yep you pay "Toyota tax" for a reason..you can trust them if they have been looked after. like the Jeeps but the 3.7 V6 like to drop valve seats in to the cylinder causing disaster, and the 4.7V8 is similar. Anything euro will have you maxing the credit card if the trans goes (which it will) especially VW ..Mitsubishi Pajeros I honestly know nothing about, same with Nissan Pathfinders.
Seems hard to get a decent "tough" 4wd after year 2000 for under 15K and in petrol, any suggestions, post em up.

Originally Posted by altair

I'm considering selling my totally faithful Nissan Regulus 3.2 diesel, as all the rumours floating around are worrying. Had a VTNZ guy tell me last WOF to get rid of it, as soon they "won't be allowed on the road" with this stupid govt wanting all pre 2000 cars off the road, especially dirty "old tech" diesels. If they don't get them off the road, they are thinking of making them excessively expensive to register etc, so like a "forced dumping" is what he told me.
TBH the only wagon I have considered is a Highlander petrol. My Regulus has the hi-lo, diff lock etc etc and it has been places a goat would think twice about. Gets to see skidder duty with tree felling on farms and cart firewood round..never misses a beat and still looks really tidy.
Most newer 4wds are plastic fantastics IMHO, Territory is a higher Falcon with AWD, and the earlier Territories loved dumping antifreeze through the trans, ruining it, and even the Highlanders I think may only be AWD too? And yep you pay "Toyota tax" for a reason..you can trust them if they have been looked after. like the Jeeps but the 3.7 V6 like to drop valve seats in to the cylinder causing disaster, and the 4.7V8 is similar. Anything euro will have you maxing the credit card if the trans goes (which it will) especially VW ..Mitsubishi Pajeros I honestly know nothing about, same with Nissan Pathfinders.
Seems hard to get a decent "tough" 4wd after year 2000 for under 15K and in petrol, any suggestions, post em up.

VW/Audi have their share of trans issues regarding certain DSG gearboxes but most ZF gearboxes seem to have good reports.

Haven't had any issues from the 4hp22 in my Disco 2 or the 6hp26 in my D3. In the Disco 2/P38 RR the gearboxes are one of the few things that don't seem to have a bad reputation.
The 6hp26 im D3 has 300,000kms on it and is bloody fantastic, I did an oil flush about 10,000kms ago which improved performance dramatically.

Doubt it's what you'd want but petrol Discovery 2s are well under 15k and are pretty nice vehicles considering the age. Some folks have horror stories about the D2 but we have two in the family and both have been great.
Fuel economy isn't great, I average about 14l/100km when not towing and 16l+/100km when towing.
My biggest complaint would be it feels like the vehicle needs another gear to smooth out the gaps between them when towing on big hills, a 5 speed manual V8 would be sweet but are uncommon. Parts are cheap and they are easy to work on, other than replacing the coil packs which is a real bitch of a job.