What’s a set of 5x 255/86R16 Coopers cost?
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What’s a set of 5x 255/86R16 Coopers cost?
Hankook RF10 is the latest of Hankooks All terrain tyre , bloody good bit of rubber and even better when its the light truck casing- I run them at present and are rapt with them , i push them pretty bloody hard and haven't had them let me down as well as them being on track for doing big mileage
seems like a strange size @gimp , what are they going on?
Landcruiser. Tall and skinny is my preference. Currently using 33/10.5R15, 255s should be about the same but ever so slightly taller and skinnier
E: only option available in NZ for 33/10.5 is BFG, Maxxis, Toyo, General Tyre etc make them but they’re not sold here, so looking at similar alternative sizes
Mad Maori, when blokes over here are looking for more expensive race / performance tires, many are buying out of the US. Tirerack has a pretty good business here. The savings on a set cover a dud. If your paying close to 2k for a set then it will cover a couple of duds. For example Cooper AT, in 265/70/17 are USD $170 plus freight.
Tire rack didn’t give me an option for shipping to NZ, what do they do for freight?
Gimp, you have to email them on shipping.
Tall and skinny is the way to go for (almost) all off road situations. Think back to the old school Land Rovers and Land Cruisers. No big fat tyres on those. I used to run 7.00x16 cross ply Dunlop Universals with tubes on split rims on my African Hilux, they called them “biscuit” tyres. You wouldn’t believe what those tyres could handle. The 7.50x16 General Super All Grips, Falkens, etc, all tall and thin. So yeah Gimp, that’s the way on your Cruiser. The 225s I run now on the Hilux aren’t the tallest but I had the full monty bash plates underneath and they’ve saved the day more than a few times. I tried taller tyres on the Hilux but too much rubbing in the rough stuff, and loss of low down grunt.
Tall and skinny works well in the snow as well from what I've seen, they seem to bit into it better than big wide ones that float along the surface
Absolutely loving the 265/70/17 Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs.
Replaced the Goodride SL366 MT's that were on my Pajero when I got it - soooo much quieter. I can hear the stereo! No big drifts or fishtailing in the wet either.
And gravel roads.... wow. So much bite.
Haven't been stuck yet either. Low tyre pressure in an aggressive AT = going places.
Tall and skinny works almost everywhere apart from sand or peametal beaches.
So many people think wider is better when they get tyres.
In fact, the wider you go the less contact pressure the tyre has so LESS traction.
I have 285/75/16 BFG under one of my Cruisers, basically a 33/11.5/16
They are a lot skinnier than a 33/12.5/15, they had a more upright sidewall, so they don't sit as 'fat' on the ground if that makes sense?
Had a wee incident with a tyre while driving to Auckland last week, so stopped to sort the issue...
Ended up with a set of Micky Thompson Deegan 38's in 20", good looking AT tyre and are pretty good noise wise on road, and I thought worth the $1700 I paid.
I have a good set of SAT 7.50x16 on hilux rims here, they'd bolt straight on....
@ROKTOY I'm going to pm you about your SATs
Just dropped a bit over $2k on a set of Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ P3s in 285/70r17 for the 100 series. Got 67,000km out of my Achilles MT's, on average they're three quarters worn, so slippery tracks are slippery-er. Had a couple slides on wet roads recently and they're showing signs of wear and tear from off road work, plus we're heading well into winter, so time for a change. Only about $500 extra for a set of Mickey's and with the awesome reviews and expected kms I should get from them it'll be interesting to see if that extra money is justified. Was going to go for their ATZ, which is a chunky tyre itself, but the MTZ is pretty darn sexy (and I do enough climbing around steep muddy tracks at this time of year to justify them) :wtfsmilie::thumbsup:
Had mtz’s on my hilux and they are a great tyre on and off road. Wear down pretty quick but they all do.
they are a horny looking tyre those p3's....i like the mickey thompson lineup , bit of a shame i cant get my hands on them but them the breaks when you're the cooper people around town.
How did you find the Achilles? put a set on a mate and he reckons they are deadly in the wet
I liked the Achilles, awesome off road tyre. They lasted better than I thought they would. I do up to 70,000 kms a year, and the bulk of my higher kms are through winter actually, so roads can be slippery, icy, wet, snowy etc. But, I am running them on a Landcruiser which is full time four wheel drive which would make a big difference. They were loud on the highway (doesn't worry me) and you could feel a fair bit of vibration around town at slower speeds due to their chunkiness and squarer pattern.
Ive just bought a set off, BF Goodrich AT KO2, in 265/75 R16 for my chev diesel, Bit curious as to what they are worth in New Zealand, (que MadMaori)
$265 Cad, fitted, 5% gst on top.
thus far they seam to be pretty good, at least in the mud, on the mine sight, better than previous wranglers. I swap to studded coopers in the winter, so summer tyres last me ages.
Had the 265/70 R17 and they were good, around $400 nzd each four years ago.
I think the massive difference in price for the Goodrich we see above ties in with what I was saying earlier about needing to be a bit of a hard nose bastard when shopping around.
We used a Cross Country rental Hilux for 6 months last year, it came with rubbish Bridgestone ATs and we needed a premium new MTs to get into the project areas, so we did a deal with Cross Country that we’d buy the tyres through their supplier and pay a millimetres of tread based price at the end of lease.
Well we were quoted insane numbers by the fleet supplier, eye wateringly expensive and I just said ‘no’, don’t know whether he thought I was a fool or what anyway we bought the exact same tyre from a local supplier at 72% of first quote (I just checked the file from that job.... that’s a saving of almost a grand on the set).
There’s also another issue in play, and that is IMO a lot of guys are running rims and tyre combos that are unnecessarily large, and commensurately more expensive. There aren’t that many applications where you need very tall tyres, which also come with the need to regear diffs if you want to get the best out of your truck.
There’s no doubt @madmaori / brad is very competitive and we should support that wherever possible. Talking of which Brad I’ve got some more ideas re my Surf tyres I’ll be in touch about at some point.
Didn't you know that if you run with bigger rims and tyres then the bigger ya weka is?! :D
Yea i believe that a lot of people put unnecessary fitments on their vehicle for the type of driving that they are doing , i can only offer them my honest advice about what they need and if they don't want to listen then that's their call.......tried to talk a mate out of putting muds on his ute a few weeks back because he doesn't need them......guess who he rang when he went through his first heavy downpour of rain on a roadtrip?!! :D :D
36/12.5/16 simex centipede, best AT tyre you can buy
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Good tyres alright. Have run the silverstone version of these on my spray truck, 31/10.5/16. Amazing grip , had a few cockys wanting out after one round of a paddock D
Not the best mileage onroad though. Chew a set out in 15000k. :wtfsmilie:
Was at the local Isuzu dealer the other week and they had a ute they had just set up as per the customers instructions - federal mudgrips on 18" rims, winch and winchbar, side bars ,blah blah.
Ask the dealer about it and he said it's not how he would do things.
But the following day I could attest that it did indeed go offroad - I saw it go through the local Wendys drive through :D
This thread has been quite informative, I'll have worn out my current maxxis mudgrips by the new year then and will be shopping for all terrains and I've got a little list of tyres to look at and price now :thumbsup:
Yup, muddies are an acquired taste and lots of guys run them unnecessarily. I hate the bloody things but having learnt the hard way I’ve had to suck it up cos without them I can’t do nowt, and I don’t want to have to tow a bike everywhere. Sometimes its literally the last 2 or 3km to get into a block, to a cabin, up a few steep gradients, and as soon as its wet its all over unless you’ve got decent MTs. With Cooper ATs I kept getting into strife even with diff locks and low pressures.
That light brown / grey shellrock mud in the Taranaki / Ruapehu area is a bitch especially when its part way to drying off after the rain, its the worst stuff I’ve ever come across, turns ATs into slicks in an instant.
cant hear the stereo or the tyres when the V8 symphony is playing :psychotic:
16 inch wheels is what you need with MT ATZAttachment 90228
Just fitted a set of highly rated Kumho AT51 ,they definitely live up to the good reviews the price was pretty good as well.
Highly recommended.