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Was quickly browsing a Australian 4wd mag in a waiting room the other day . The mag was promoting a chip for most new utes . Do these chips perform as good as they promote ? . Are the modern engines lagging because of emissions ? . Anyone chipped there truck ?
Yes do it, didn't here it from me but Also get rid of all emission shit,
Ask Kiwi Greg I think yours are the same model? tho they are all the same anyway :D
Chip in dads colorado took it from sheep eater to sheep destroyer in one easy step.
A mate of mine did it back in 2007 to his auto transmission sheep shagger and it certainly seemed to improve its power and fuel consumption😆
Dunno enough about them to say if it will improve the more modern versions.
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Next Question . How do you get on with warranty ? can you plug them in then take out at will ?
There are good chips, and there are absolute crap that will destroy your engines.
The good ones cost plenty at specialist shops and actually work, the cheap crap flogged on Trade Me will turn your nice new engine into a large paper weight quickly.
DPChip and Steinbauer are a couple of the good ones.
We see plenty of trucks coming through work that have been chipped. Lots unfortunately are the cheap crap that cause no end of dramas.
Warranty wise, it will be on a case by case basis from my experience.
Some can be plugged in and unplugged very easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Munsey
Mine cost quite a bit I thought at the time & may or may not have been fitted by a dealership.
It made a big difference, it certainly hauls arse now.
My stock 2011 Hilux was sitting on 9.4 litres per 100ks average, my replacement 2014 was sitting on 8.4 until winter & idling it to demist it, now its on 8.5.
So it looks like more power for less fuel party on :D
I had the same results with the Monaro & hope to with the GT 86 :)
Toyota frig around themselves. I remove the DPFs in a lot of three litre hi aces for them. They get the little emulator kits off trademe and fit them lol and they're the dealership
Yep, just do it. done 3 hilux's and 2 200 series cruisuers and a couple v8 Holden's. In the manual hilux it's like having another gear a mate has his auto running through a switch which is really good for feeling the difference.
The dealers hear have been fine with the warranty side but then again I haven't had to put them to task about it yet (touch wood).
Chipping is very big in the UK you can save a lot on fuel and still pass the emission test, some of the best are the one,s, where they remap your original chip after working out how your engine is running, cost about $700
I'm following this with interest. I have an old '96 4.2 TD landcruiser. Any ideas what it might cost me to chip, or if it's worth it (got 300k on the clock)
Series 80 btw
Can't chip that old, the chips these guys are talking about are for common rail stuff
But pump mods and big turbo would suit the 80 series just nicely
@Kiwi Greg, is your ute a manual or auto?
Old school, manualQuote:
Originally Posted by MSL
There is a couple of chip places that off full refunds if your unhappy.
The chips are normally plug and play so easy to pull out for services.
I put an ecu chip on my brand new 2012 hilux and from just towing boat to the beach was makng the clutch slip down till 3rd gear at 15000kms so I took it off . Now every now and then when it's raining it will slip when first engageing 4th at 60000kms made the engine noisier fuel usage was about the same brought one for the father in laws merc van and made it break down after 30000kms so he threw it in the bin I wouldn't buy another
I dont think you can blame the clutch on the chip lol, they are renound for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by stub
i wasn't blaming the chip i was more indicating the power increase it gave but also giving an example of an experience having owned a power chip as that is what a forum is for not a keyboard warrior thats never owned a vehicle new enough to have one but seems to have all the answers to everything . que crying session
Thats fine but you could have worded it differently it sounded like you were blaming the chip for your shitty clutch.Quote:
Originally Posted by stub
Oh and no need to have a crying session toyota were very good about upgrading the clutch in the work truck that was fucked around 30,000k and that wasnt even chipped so they should fix yours like all the rest.
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i wasn't blaming the chip i was more indicating the power increase it gave but also giving an example of an experience having owned a power chip as that is what a forum is for not a keyboard warrior thats never owned a vehicle new enough to have one but seems to have all the answers to everything . que crying session
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So stub has a piss weak clutch and kiwi Greg has a decent one or just different driving styles
Lol, most plug and play chips just work as an interceptor to feed to real ecu slightly false info to think it needs to run slightly higher injector duty to increase fueling. Everything is software based these days and they don't usually replace a "chip" like in the past, so any that modify your ecu you're just paying for an altered fuel map, basically a 5 minute download, but you're paying for the software development.
Most diesels from factory have air reserves from highly efficient turbos, programmed into the maps to allow for varied fuels, maintenance and to prevent smoking at any acceleration, chip just uses up that 10-15% reserve
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Originally Posted by mikee
The early ones had clutch issues apparently compared to the new ones, having said that I never had any clutch issues with my previous Hilux 4wd but it was standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by MSL
The gearbox was another story......
You dont really do a lot of heavy towing either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg
Only the cheap versions do that and it farks the engines real quick. We see it all the time at work.Quote:
Originally Posted by specweapon
The proper expensive chips do a lot more than upset the factory settings. That is why they cost a lot more, as they have had the correct programming put in place. These chips are reliable and have decent backup service as well. You get what you pay for. Buying a upgrade chip off someone who is not a specialist is only asking for trouble.
I assume mine is a piggy back as apparently it plugs in, don't know, but judging by it's performance a year plus on it must be a bloody slow learner :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauser308
Yeah any engine with O2 sensors while running in closed loop will realise that you're adding more fuel and will knock back the fuel trims up to 20% to bring it back to factory targets.
Reflash is the best way for sure
The decent plug in ECU's are not a reflash or a shitty fueling remap. They also do not revert back to factory settings.
They have done the proper research into what needs to be altered to get the best gains.
If you are interested in a good system, my best recommendation is go to a specialist and talk to them.
DPS offer this. Had it done to my Ranger and I'd -never- go back to the std map. Uses slightly less gas but the extra torque is astounding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauser308
Sounds like that will be more of a software upgrade. Most of the manufacturers can update the ECU's to the latest specifications.
Unfortunately Toyota aren't 1 of them. They're still behind the times. Their updates are only patches or field fixes.
I assume all aftermarket chips will void the warranty
Only if you leave it in, Once removed there is no trace of them ever being thereQuote:
Originally Posted by MSL